On one hand I posit that engineers need to be motivated and incentivized to do things, but on the other I'm a staunch believer in mutualism and communities that work together for a greater good.

How do I reconcile the two, given that contradiction?

Because we live in an incredibly individualistic society in which power is unbalanced and concentrated the higher up you go.

So the choices are embracing idealism and what we _want_ the world to be versus confronting the world as it is today and engaging with it on those terms.

Systems of power are created over years and decades, is it any surprise they take as long if not more so to undo?

If you want change it's a long-haul, not a few posts and novel ideas.

I find I always trust people more with shovels doing the work than those complaining about the speed they're digging and the style with which they do so.

It does not mean we agree with it, but that if we truly want change it's going to involve a lot of work that is deeply uncomfortable over many years.

Heck, it took me the better part of a decade to even get traction on a few of my ideas back in Missouri, but perhaps all that work makes it easier for the next person to go even faster.

@baweaver this is all definitely so! There's a lot of people who are benefiting and entrenched in the ways things are and how they got there. Even ppl who see the downsides of the s.quo still have a hard time fighting against it, and get discouraged when the first attempts are met with negativity or, worse, IMO, nothing or indifference.
@baweaver yeah, this is just how people act in adversarial, zero sum situations. It's really unfortunate that this US the situation we do often find ourselves in, but engineers didn't create it and can't stop it.
@jenniferplusplus I still believe it can change, but it's never a quick process.
@baweaver it's certainly possible, yeah. The path probably goes through cooperatives. And certainly through a ressurgent labor movement. So, not a small task.