Prison forces trans woman into solitary confinement at a men's facility - LGBTQ Nation

https://lemmy.world/post/17332678

Prison forces trans woman into solitary confinement at a men's facility - Lemmy.World

I might not be understanding something, but if she's being placed in solitary, I'm not really sure what difference it makes what type of facility she's put into. My understanding is that you don't get to interact with anybody in solitary, regardless of gender. I can't imagine there's too many gender-specific accommodations that are made in these situations.
She was put into solitary because she refused to be transferred.

Ahh, gotcha. I see now, I originally thought she was being put straight into solitary from the start. That definitely changes things then.

This is one of those tough stories that really challenges your morals. Part of me wants to take her side, because no woman should be forced into a men's prison, trans or not. But then there's another part of me which feels a bit indifferent to the suffering of a murderer. Part of me thinks "just put her in solitary back in the women's prison", but then another part of me thinks "actually we shouldn't have solitary confinement in any prisons in the first place". It's just an awful situation from every angle.

She was raping another prisoner. That’s why she being moved. There is no consensual sex in prison.

Solitary confinement is needed in some situations. This isn’t one of them. It is overused but should never be used as a punishment. It should be used to keep people safe.

It’s a blurb of an article and I don’t know the backstory to know what the right answer is.

To me it doesn’t matter if she murdered someone or not. The prison system is supposed to be dispassionate about the crime.

There is no consensual sex in prison.

Between guards and inmates. Inmates are on a level playing field and can have consensual sex. Unless of course you’re talking about legal technicalities in which case, the suffering is the point.

No images cannot have sex in prism with other inmates. It is prohibited.

It is prohibited.

Doing drugs is prohibited. Doing drugs isn’t rape.

Drugs have nothing to do with consent.
I agree, something being prohibited has nothing to do with consent.
Well go argue with the law, not sure why you are bothering me with what the news reports
The law doesn’t call it non-consensual or rape either. Just says it’s not allowed.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/…/ar-BB1kq1cJ

An anonymous Washington DOC employee told National Review that there is “technically” no consensual sex among incarcerated individuals, but that “Washington has been mitigating the sanctions on offenders involved” if both parties claim the intercourse is consensual, resulting in “less trouble” for the offenders.

Rape is non-consenual sex. DOC employee said there is no consensual rape among inmates.

MSN

both parties claim the intercourse is consensual, resulting in “less trouble” for the offenders.

I understand the language just fine. You seem to be ignoring the articles to form your own inaccurate opinion. Mine is fact and is yours is opinion.

www.huffpost.com/entry/…/amp

In a follow-up email, Wright said he should not have used the word “consensual,” “since there technically is no such thing

Washington Moves Trans Woman Back To Men’s Prison In Unprecedented Act

Amber Kim, the subject of a 2023 HuffPost story, spent three and a half years at the Washington Corrections Center for Women before she was forcibly removed last week.

HuffPost
If the government declared two men could not consent to having sex with each other would you call gay men rapists? Or would you say that’s not how those words work?
Maybe you struggle with laws but that’s how laws work. If someone says it’s ok to kill them and you do. It’s still murder. Have a good day.

If someone says it’s ok to kill them and you do. It’s still murder

I agree. Just because the law says something is ethical (like murdering gay people) that doesn’t mean it’s actually ethical.

Similarly, just because the law says something is unethical (like two prisoners consenting to having sex) that does not make them rapists.