@pgcd @Veza85UE @xChaos ,

I'm not sure whether I understand the French enough, but this text seems relevant (to our activities?):

https://theconversation.com/pourquoi-le-nouveau-front-populaire-et-son-programme-commun-ne-sont-pas-d-extreme-gauche-233845

If you go through the French text, I would be happy for your impressions.

@riff @SpiceOdissey

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Pourquoi le Nouveau Front populaire et son programme commun ne sont pas d’« extrême gauche »

En définissant les contours historiques et politiques de l’« extrême gauche », on comprend que le Nouveau Front populaire ne fait pas partie de ce courant politique.

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@abolitionniste @pgcd @Veza85UE @xChaos @riff @SpiceOdissey The text defines what extreme left is, in order to establish that the Nouveau Front Populaire is not extreme left, but just (normal) left.

@bobojp , Thank you for your kind help. I understand you are a French and European Union citizen. Correct? I am interested in desribing a desired political direction of the Union. For me, the words "left", "extreme", "normal" are not helpful. But, if I use them, a starting of my or our description may be a combination of 'Ukraine must win' and 'left is good'. Would you be interested on some cooperation?

@xChaos

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@abolitionniste @xChaos Yes, I’m French and also got Australian Citizenship. I’ve always been pro EU and I’m pro Ukraine since 22 Feb 2022.
Not sure what is involved with such collaboration, though I may be able to help with translations especially.
I agree with left is good. I do vote socialist when my assessment of the leader is positive. But I do draw a line with extreme left, which as per the definition in the submitted text is revolutionary in essence and to me aims at levelling things from and for the bottom.

@bobojp , Great! 🙂 🇪🇺 🇺🇦

The more EU languages we cover the better.

I propose some rules of our cooperation:

1) Each of us does a little; as little as they wish.

2) One can drop out any time withou any hard feelings.

3) Our cooperation is a little more than tooting, boosting and faving.

Perhaps, you may look here, whether you may join me in that intermediate statement:

https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=1084#p1084

These are MEPs of S&D, RE and G/EFA political groups.

Ask. I explain 🙂

@xChaos

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Naše politická skupina v Evropském parlamentu - Stránky 7 - Trojka třetího

@abolitionniste @xChaos OK. I recognised deputies from Renaissance in there (Mr. Macron’s party). I’m guessing the others are of similar background.
In which case, I can gladly support this list.

@bobojp mostly I am positive or even enthusiastic, when I learn backgrounds and stories of the MEPs on the list.

in one case, I found german soc-dem MEP, who insists on criminalising clients of sex services. While it may be more fair, than criminalising the sex workers themselves, I am more harm-reduction oriented and would decriminalise lot of stuff (which does not necessarily mean promoting it). But it is probably not the main issue characterising the shared political vision, I guess.

@abolitionniste

@xChaos , I am glad you study the individual cases 🙂 I'll be happy to discuss her case with you, based on her statements and perhaps involving her or someone of her staff too.

I am looking for a broad perspective / coalition(?)... When I say I am on the side of the Ukrainian army I am not saying that I approve of all individiual soldiers...

@bobojp

@bobojp @abolitionniste I see pople from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_Publique which seems to be more centre-left alternative to more radical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_France_Insoumise

I admit, that European political life is quite complex, with local parties in many countries not necessarily having straightforward counterparts in other parties (but they use EP fractions to find each other and affiliate)

We, Pirates, were just accused on one Czech discussion forum (nyx.cz), that our MEPs voting is alligned with Die Linke. This is quite complex, because on the other hand, ECR voting seems to be aligned with ID member parties, and so on...

Place Publique - Wikipedia

@xChaos @abolitionniste I did vote for Raphaël Glucksmann (Place Public) for the European election. He’s very strongly pro EU and pro Ukraine, and I like his ideas in general.
But then they associated for the legislative elections with LFI (Melenchon) which is a shame.
@xChaos @abolitionniste Place Public is basically what is left of French Socialist Party these days.

@bobojp , First, I pray for the French voters to vote today in all cases against RN (Le Pen). I don't know if there is a case of LFI (Mélenchon) candidate standing against RN candidate, but if yes, in this case, vote LFI. Not?

@xChaos

@abolitionniste @xChaos Just voted… In my circonscription, RN was beaten in the first round by both Renaissance and NFP, so it was easier for me…
NFP had candidate from LFI, so I supported Renaissance.

@bobojp , I understand your view.

These are difficult (and emotinal?) matters.

I do belive it is time for a broad and wide coalition; not for an indeological purity 🙂

But, we two, you and me, let us concentrate first on where we are in alignment without much effort...

@xChaos

@bobojp , I very happy about this agreement 🤝 🎉 🍷

The European Parliament page with links to the political groups pages: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/about-parliament/en/organisation-and-rules/organisation/political-groups

S&D : https://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/

RE: https://www.reneweuropegroup.eu/

G/EFA: https://www.greens-efa.eu/en/

The names in our(!) list are based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_European_Parliament_%282024%E2%80%932029%29 as of 2.7.

I noticed there are already some additions to some of our(!) groups, we will update the list when we find better data...

@xChaos

The political groups

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