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Etsy to ban sale of most sex toys, explicit content, and more

https://lemmy.world/post/17076073

Etsy to ban sale of most sex toys, explicit content, and more - Lemmy.World

Online retailer Etsy [https://mashable.com/search?query=etsy&page=1] will prohibit sales of most sex toys, content that depicts sex acts and genitalia, and more starting July 29. The indie seller published its Adult Nudity and Sexual Content policy [https://www.etsy.com/legal/policy/adult-nudity-and-sexual-content/1269612959532] yesterday, which states that sales of adult toys that are insertable, “applied to the genitalia,” or “designed for genitals to be inserted into them” will be prohibited. That pretty much runs the gamut — dildos, vibrators, rings, plugs, and the like will be banned.

Jun 30, 2024 at 11:40amWeb
Show threadtalJun 30, 2024
Hmm. If the concern is the Etsy brand value, I’d just spin it off into a new company that does permit it. If you’ve already built a network of people selling and buying stuff and the software to do so, terminating it just sends the value of that to zero.
Show threadbreadsmasherJun 30, 2024
Could be liability? Someone sells a poorly made toy which breaks inside someone. Is etsy concerned they maybe held liable for that sort of thing being allowed to be sold? I don’t know - thinking out loud
Show threadtalJun 30, 2024

Ehh. I mean, if they were just banning sex toys, I could believe something like that, but doesn’t explain why they’d ban stuff other than sex toys simultaneously:

Etsy is also banning nudity for human models, including “gluteal clefts and female nipples/areolas.” If you’re selling a sexy item of clothing, for example, you must censor body parts, use a mannequin, or opt for just photographing the clothing.

“Sexual language” concerning incest or “referencing familial relationships” will also be banned now. The examples Etsy lists are “Daddy’s slut” and “Choke me Mommy.” As of publication, these terms are still searchable on Etsy, and so is nude content. Searches for “porn” come up blank.

Show threadFlying SquidJun 30, 2024
They do know that terms like “daddy’s slut” are not actually incest terms most of the time, right?
Show threadAnarchistArtificerJul 2, 2024

“gluteal clefts”.

I don’t know why I find that so funny.

Show threadgreenskyeJun 30, 2024
Even like ‘real’ dildo manufactures tend to claim the toy is for novelty use only and don’t recommend actually using the thing as an insertable object. Adult toys aren’t really regulated, because that would mean legitimizing them which is icky to the government. So they’ll never really be regulated for health and safety
Show threadtalJun 30, 2024

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Show threadotpJun 30, 2024

Yeah, because it’s stupid to use them for that.

clinere.com

There are products that are designed to clean the ears. Q-tips are for makeup and cleaning electronics and stuff.

Clinere® - Clean your ears the gentle way

Use Clinere® Ear Cleaners and Kits every day as part of your morning or evening routine, and you'll never need to deal with earwax buildup again.

Clinere
Show threadSir_KevinJun 30, 2024
I’m just going to have to disagree with you on that.
Show threadotpJul 1, 2024

If you can get your hands on them, try the clinear things. They’re shaped like cotton swabs, except instead of a wad of cotton on the end, it has a little scoop.

It’s like using a spoon to eat cereal instead of a hammer. I don’t understand why people use hammers.

Show threadSir_KevinJul 1, 2024
Actually I do have something similar and it is indeed pretty great but q-tips are still in go to the daily use.
Show threadChefWhiteJul 1, 2024

So they’ve reinvented earspoons?

I bought one a few years ago for medieval reenactment stuff. Never planned to use it because I always hated the feeling of cotton buds. Then eventually got curious enough to try it.

Turns out it’s the texture I hate.

Show threadRookwoodJun 30, 2024
Companies don’t spin-off new competition. That would get everyone of the executives and the board fired. They kill competition. That’s why it’s mergers and acquisitions. Not spin-offs that meet the needs of consumers.
Show threadSaltySalamanderJun 30, 2024
So confidently incorrect.
Show threaddecivexJun 30, 2024
I think it’s most likely pressure from payment processors.
Show threadsnooggumsJun 30, 2024
Payment processors shouldn’t be acting as a moral authority.
Show threadTheRealKuniJun 30, 2024
And yet, here we are.
Show threadgrueJun 30, 2024
Yet again, failure to enforce antitrust law is a big part of the problem.
Show threadgreenskyeJun 30, 2024
The government has ceded the entirety of modern currency exchange to private companies, which is still crazy to me, but I honestly don’t see people even question it that often. As if it’s just a given that online purchases (the increasing majority of all economic activity) is subject purely to a ToS and not the laws and protections granted to us by the government.
Show threadtreadfulJun 30, 2024

As if it’s just a given that online purchases (the increasing majority of all economic activity) is subject purely to a ToS and not the laws and protections granted to us by the government.

What? Of course they’re still subject to laws. There’s so many laws and precedent based around banking that it requires specialized lawyers.

Show threadkent_ehJun 30, 2024
They shouldn’t be, but they have a long history of doing exactly that.
Show threadOnno (VK6FLAB)Jun 30, 2024
Based on the various draconian terms and conditions I’ve seen on my search for a solution I’d be surprised if this was driven by Etsy. In my opinion this is much more likely to be caused by its payment processor.
Show threadgnutrinoJun 30, 2024
Yeah, this stinks of another company coming under pressure from Exodus Cry/Morality in Media lobbying of payment processors.
Exodus Cry - Wikipedia

Show threadFlying SquidJun 30, 2024
That is the problem Etsy thinks it should be tackling rather than the fact that its small business sellers are being driven off the platform. Shows where their priorities are.
Show threadcygnusJun 30, 2024
Yeah, it’s turning into Amazon, flooded by resellers of cheap Chinese shit. That does far more harm to the Etsy brand.
Show threadRookwoodJun 30, 2024

Chinese reselling is the most profitable business model. Etsy is a public company and must choose the most profitable business model. The idea that a publicly traded company will have it’s primary business model being selling handcrafted goods is asinine.

Not attacking anyone that didn’t see this coming, I’m just commenting on how stupid it is that every company feels the need to go public in our culture of greed regardless of their mission and place in the market.

Show threadcygnusJun 30, 2024

Chinese reselling is the most profitable business model. Etsy is a public company and must choose the most profitable business model.

This is a definition of capitalism contrived by someone looking to dunk on capitalism at any cost. BMW could be “profitable” if they started flooding the market with $20k cars… for a while.

Show threadsandalbucketJul 1, 2024

I have no context for how expensive a bmw is. I assume it’s more than 20k? - how much more? 50k?

I’m trying to save for a house downpayment but have also been thinking about a new car, and the Tiguan looks kinda nice, assuming it’s not one of those touch screen cars

Show threadcygnusJul 1, 2024

(sorry everyone else for going way off topic here)

The Tiguan is indeed nice! It drives pretty well and had enough cargo room to hold a bunch of musical instruments last time I needed to do that. It has gotten expensive, though. For my money I’d either buy a gently used one, or check out the Taos if you don’t mind the slightly smaller size.

Show threadsandalbucketJul 1, 2024
The Taos might be the play - I am very nearly in love with the Golf, and even though I love a small car, it’s just slightly too small. I want to fit at least a hiking backpack in the trunk.
Show threadcygnusJul 2, 2024
I quite like the Taos, One of my friends has one and it’s roomier than most other crossovers in that segment.
Show threadShepherdPieJul 2, 2024
I like how this interaction started as an argument and ended with recommendations for a good, used car.
Show threadrestingboredfaceJun 30, 2024

Well the funny thing is Etsy actually made a different choice originally. They claimed b-corp status, which is supposed to mean they prioritize social good in their business strategy. It’s annoying that they seem to be so much more profit focused because if they were going to go to the trouble of becoming a bcorp they really should be working harder to stick to it.

Here’s a bit more about benefit corporations (b-corps)

B Corp Certification demonstrates a company's entire social and environmental impact.

Information about how to become a B Corp and the process of B Corp Certification.

Show threaddisguy_ovaheaJun 30, 2024

It would do even more harm if people were more aware of how China is able to make things so inexpensively. Amazon and Walmart have standardized obfuscating slave labor.

In Xinjiang, the government is the trafficker. Authorities use threats of physical violence, forcible drug intake, physical and sexual abuse, and torture to force detainees to work in adjacent or off-site factories or worksites producing garments, footwear, carpets, yarn, food products, holiday decorations, building materials, extractives, materials for solar power equipment and other renewable energy components, consumer electronics, bedding, hair products, cleaning supplies, personal protective equipment, face masks, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, and other goods—and these goods are finding their way into businesses and homes around the world.

state.gov/forced-labor-in-chinas-xinjiang-region/

Yes, the US also employs slave labor for big food brands. It’s important to be aware of those as well.

apnews.com/…/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investi…

Technical Difficulties

Show threadnotanaltaccountJun 30, 2024

It’s all so horrible. 😭

I’m sure I’ve used some of the slave labor products. To those who are captive, I am so sorry! I am an exhausted worker bee and just trying to get by in the world and wish I could help you.

Show threadEnsign_CrabJun 30, 2024

It would do even more harm if people were more aware of how China is able to make things so inexpensively. Amazon and Walmart have standardized obfuscating slave labor.

And Etsy has turned obfuscating slave labor into a side hustle.

Show threadpaddirnJun 30, 2024
Where the hell am I supposed to go for custom-made, anatomically correct dinosaur genitalia sex toys? WTF? Please make it make sense.
Show threadTacticsConsortJun 30, 2024
Bad Dragon
Show threaddecivexJun 30, 2024
You don’t really get the personal touch there though.
Show threadfernJun 30, 2024
TTC LLC?
Show threadramble81Jun 30, 2024
“Insertable” or “designed to be inserted in to”…. Never underestimate the creativity of a horny person…
Show threadwerefreeatlastJun 30, 2024

They’re messing with my retirement plans!

No, I’m not selling the stuff! That’s the problem. I better get on a shopping spree.

Let me know where all these sellers will take their wares next. I’m hoping it’s a fediverse based shopping app.

Show threadNum10ckJun 30, 2024
i’m trying to imagine a fediverse shopping setup where vendors and shoppers are globally trusted in an unhackable way. i’m guessing blockchain is involved?
Show threadwerefreeatlastJun 30, 2024

There seems to be a discussion regarding this topic here. I found several other such conversations too. It could work!

lemmy.eus/post/247855

Idea: fediverse of ecommerce. Time to dethrone amazon and ebay. What do you think? - Lemmy.eus

Buying from an alternative ecommerce site usually sucks: you have to register for every website, enter your address, payment information and other information, they may leak data or store it improperly, you may not know the reputation of the website or business, you can’t easily compare products with other vendors and more. Amazon and ebay offer a centralized good experience and you know you can trust them with your purchase. They benefit the consumer by aggregating many businesses so it fosters competition lowering prices but they have so much power and they have done some anti consumer moves. Their fees could also be a problem. The same way mastodon offers a viable alternative to the deadbird platform and slice power to small instances while getting a better user experience. (And lemmy to Reddit.) A fediverse version of ecommerce could perhaps be viable: federated ecommerce that aggregates small business shops, handle the user details and let the business access it when you hit buy. Activity pub to communicate the listings and purchase orders. I am not a programmer and don’t know the technical implementations of it. So what do you think?

Show threadMoraJun 30, 2024
No need to imagine: codeberg.org/flohmarkt/flohmarkt
flohmarkt

federated decentral classified ad software using activitypub

Codeberg.org
Show threadShotgun_AliceJun 30, 2024
Lame, now Etsy is just going to be a wish or temu resalers hawking cheaply made goods, crack down on that instead Etsy.
Show threadpsvrhJun 30, 2024
“Going to be”?
Show threadInFerNoJul 1, 2024
“crack down” on their business model?
Show threadLodraJun 30, 2024
Etsy hasn’t been good for years. But I haven’t found an alternative yet. Anybody know what we should use instead?
Show threadSexyVetraJun 30, 2024
While still young and not a drop-in replacement yet, artisans.coop looks promising
Artisans Cooperative

We are building a better handmade marketplace. We are a member-owned, member-run and member-benefiting co-op. We promote creativity, support artist livelihoods, and connect people through an equitable artistic community.

Artisans Cooperative
Show threadFlying SquidJun 30, 2024
Awesome! Thank you for this!
Show threadTexasDrunkJun 30, 2024

I hate to say it, but Amazon Handmade is the only one stop shop I’ve found that can compete so far. I’m hoping that changes soon.

Depending on what you want there are specific marketplaces dealing in it. Aftcra tried to do American handcrafted stuff but they closed down recently. Most of the places are just T-shirt or other textile printing on demand or they give you the tools to make your own storefront without the cohesive “search everything we’ve got” format of Etsy.

That’s what I’ve found, which means I could be way the fuck off base because I’m just a drunk and I’m not passionate about handmade goods unless I happen to run across them locally.

Show threadJojo, Lady of the WestJun 30, 2024
Is writings a typo, or a euphemism?
Show threadadarzaJul 1, 2024
started going downhill around the time they went public (2015). chasing higher stock prices instead of attracting quality sellers of actual handmade goods.
Show threadcorsicanguppyJul 1, 2024
What?!? Classic enshittification then.
Show threadmotor_spiritJun 30, 2024
noooo not my whiskey barrel butt plugs for the groomsmen!
Show threadfiercekittenJun 30, 2024
Etsy is now dead to me. Any site that bans writings or nipples is not a place that deserves my money.
Show threadviperexJun 30, 2024
I have questions about the sex toy space on Etsy that I think can only be answered by a visit there
Show threadsbexpertJul 1, 2024
I recommend Fantasticocks and DeepFantasies.
Show threadStarkstruckJun 30, 2024
How about they get rid of the shitty dropshippers instead?