Checkmate Valve - Lemmy.World

The family sharing works okay but the old school way is good too.
In Australia we don’t have family sharing for some stupid reason
I dunno if it’s “family sharing” or some other thing, but I can play games from my sister’s library through some means that I set up a couple of years ago.
Yes it’s family sharing
I cannot imagine they’re going to keep family sharing as is - currently a couple of buddies and I shared a family account and now we all have access to over 700 games. I only had to coordinate with one of them, we all basically chained off each other. The abuse must be massive.
How is that abuse? Imagine how many viruses you’ll be avoiding by legitimately sharing games with your friends.

Come on dude…are you kidding? You and I could do a family share without any risk to each other and share our entire libraries tonight. That is not the sameas handing off to your buddies. I love the family sharing program, I am currently using it. I am not against piracy. Let’s get all that out of the way.

Surely you see the potential issue here if this is supposed to be a family sharing program?

Surely you see the potential issue here if this is supposed to be a family sharing program?

Just my brother from another mother fam, no hating.

I was under the impression that if someone is playing a game from your library you can’t access it unless you boot them out (or you put steam in offline mode, meaning no updates or multiplayer for the duration). Is that no longer true?
You can just play another one of the 700. If you want to play together then you need multiple copies.
Ooooooh. I was under the mistaken impression that your whole library was locked down, not just the one game. Good to know!

They changed that in an update a couple months ago, so it’s only the game that is being played that’s locked and not the whole library

Update: Steam news - Introducing Steam Families

Steam News - Introducing Steam Families - Steam News

UPDATE: Steam Families launched out of beta on September 11th, and is now available to all Steam users. Read our newer post detailing Steam Families here! Everything below is from the original post from March 18th, 2024: Hello! We are excited to announce Steam Families, available today in the Steam Beta Client. Steam Families is a collection of new and existing family-related features.

Wow, guess I’ll never kick my old roommate off then.
Yeah but that’s only a problem if both of you want to play the same game at the exact same time
I replied the same thing to another comment, but I had thought it locked down the whole library rather than just the one game being played. I could have sworn I ran into that issue but it’s been a long time since I tried it do I suppose I misremembered.
Nope total access unless you both want to play the exact same game at the same time. It’s great lol
I started elden ring from a family share recently, friend hasn’t gotten the dlc so I’m just getting to experience the main game for free before deciding if I actually want to spend 80 on the game and dlc
Yeah my kids basically took over my steam account already on the family gaming computer. Alas.
Your gaming alias now is a generational family name. All hail the House of Sparkles.
I look forward to the day when I pass my screen name on to my son
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I don’t think I wanna give them mine…

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Nahh dude has a bigger years of service then steam’s age
This screenshot is from 100 years in the future.

Mind asking your future connection to fire up Stanley Parable for me?

Let’s see what fuckery they baked in.

They’ll fire it up mere moments before you finally get the Go Oustide achievement.
WHY DIDN’T THIS FUCKER WARN US ABOUT 9/11
20 years ago, 9/11 wasn’t a big deal.
WHY DIDN’T THIS FUCKER REMIND US ABOUT 9/11
If you look very closely, you can see its Photoshop!
It was a joke it’s clearly photoshop

Can you tell from some of the pixels?

Another example of a company making clear that we don’t truly own the games we play on their platform.
Where did they say this?
In response to a customer support message. resetera.com/…/to-anyone-who-is-curious-no-you-ca…
To anyone who is curious, no, you cannot transfer your Steam account via a will. You can only take your games to your graves.

This is confirmation that even with death, you cannot will your Steam games to another. Happy Monday, everyone.

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I think this is more of a defence against scammers honestly, with a convincing enough scam you could make valve belive an account holder was dead and you’re a family member wanting to transfer their account to yours.

Hell, I saw my dead friend’s account message me in Russian, contacted support about it, and all they could do was remove the hacker’s access, not even lock or delete that account.

And how could they? Unless you have your full name, address, and other identifying information somewhere on your account (strongly ill-advised, obviously) Valve can’t cross check it with a death certificate and take action, for all they know you could be cooperating with the hacker or submitting fake information to “prank” your friend by getting their account removed.

Allowing account transfers would open a whole new can of worms.

Just write down the password and login if you know you’re going to go. I don’t think Valve under Gabe would have issues with that. Though I do worry for its future

The solution is GOG (their business model).

You get the individual keys, no DRM.

A couple of years ago my gog exceeded my steam library. Pretty good considering I have around 500 on steam.

… But wait till you find out how many of those I’ve actually played… 🙃😓😢

And to how many already played games you return to bcs not enough energy to start a brand new game (especially with rich/complex lore).

Yeah.

That’s how we’re still using my Dad’s account, it’s mostly used by my brother, but shared with the other gamers in the family
That won’t work for long. With the way things are going, we may get expiring accounts after 100 years from your date of birth you registered with.
That’s not gonna stick, steam can’t remember birthdays. And I’m pretty sure everyone told it multiple times we were born January 1 1901
I would trust steam wouldn’t do it but epic and Microsoft will
Why would you trust steam? Valve famously invented lootboxes and tried to do the NFT market thing before NFTs were big, what makes you think they’re not just as greedy?
Because they are not publicly traded and line go up need jot always apply to them. They will not try and milk every last cent out of you.

They are the strongest DRM on the market

???

They are the strongest DRM on the market.

LMAO you have got to be shitting me. It is the bare minimum for DRM, it’s weak as fuck and games protected by Steamworks DRM are cracked almost immediately by casuals

Valve didn’t invent lootboxes. The concept has physically existed for decades, they’re called trading card packs or kinder eggs or gashapon. The latter is the inspiration for what became known as lootboxes. The first “lootbox” was actually in the Japanese version of MapleStory in 2004 and it spread in eastern markets (because pay to win is more normalized there) and in mobile games. It wasn’t until 2009 when EA added card packs to FIFA. Hard to say if they were inspired by the lootboxes from the east of the insane football trading card market in the west, or by both. It was only after a year and a half later in 2010 when Valve added loot boxes to TF2. So Valve definitely didn’t invent lootboxes, they weren’t even the first in the west to use them. You could argue that they popularized loot boxes but even there is an argument to be made that Overwatch was a much bigger cultural hit than TF2 or CSGO or EAs FIFA games and normalized lootboxes.

I don’t mind the “Valve is bad” narrative, but at least keep your facts straight. The “strongest DRM” is also BS but others have already somewhat covered that part.

I think they said you can’t transfer the license between accounts, but they never said anything about turning over the account
I think the TOS include that you are not allow to tell your login credentials to anyone?
Good luck to anyone trying to enforce that lol
Not right now. But in the future if companies keep getting away with everything they may introduce some kind of bio-identification: eye scan, face id or fingerprint. And lock your account only to that. Preventing from every form of sharing.
After 60 years they cut off your account … Why 60 ? Just because they need to find a way to screw people that still comply to the rules …
Sssssshhhhhh steam doesn’t need to know
Transferring your account to another person is against the TOS of most services.
Only if they catch me ;)
I mean, it’s still against it. But I can’t see how they’d enforce it, unless valve starts demanding IDs. I’m afraid for a post-gaben era where Valve might just do that…