Dr. Lucky Tran Jun 27, 2024

Reminder: Fascism rose partly as a result of the 1918 pandemic. Do not stay silent about the attempts to ban masks and protests.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8802602/

The 1918 Influenza Pandemic and the Rise of Italian Fascism: A Cross-City Quantitative and Historical Text Qualitative Analysis

Evidence linking past experiences of worsening health with support for radical political views has generated concerns about the consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic. The influenza pandemic that began in 1918 had a devastating health impact: 4.1 million ...

PubMed Central (PMC)
Show threadDP0Jun 27, 2024
@luckytran I tend to disagree ... at least in general. Whilst it is true that right-wingers and fascist feast on all kinds of cataclysmic events like vultures, it is often difficult to isolate one single event. In case of the rise of fascism in Europe in the 20s/30s the Spanish flue might be one of the contributors ... together with other causes like Versailles (notably Germany), the Spanish revolution (obviously Spain), the world-wide economic crisis, etc.
Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024
@DP0 @luckytran yep. This is nonsense. The reason Nazism rose is because of the stab in the back idea and the Versailles Treaty. Hitler was so angry with France that he made them surrender IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE IN THE EXACT SAME TRAIN CAR! And the 1918 pandemic was long over by the time the NSDAP became the largest party. The NYSE crash boosted them. In 23 they couldn’t even take over the government. 1/n
Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024
@DP0 @luckytran Hitler went to prison. It’s true that he got off much lighter than he was supposed to due to sympathisers but he had too little support in 23 (that didn’t mean they didn’t turn it into their own mythology). And they thought they could control Hitler by making him chancellor. A communist (despite what some say there’s evidence that it was a communist and not a Nazi) did the Reichstagbrand. 2/n
Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024

@DP0 @luckytran That in turn gave Hitler almost dictatorial power. But they didn’t have that much support until years after the pandemic. Another reason people supported them: not a pandemic but because the alternative was Communism.

As for Duce just because he wanted the pandemic over doesn’t mean that he wanted to be dictator because of it! That is ridiculous. People who want to be dictator want to be dictator because they want power. 3/n

Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024

@DP0 @luckytran And plenty of people who are not fascists want it to go away too!

As for more modern fascism these people who think it’s the pandemic must not know about the AfD. Did you not know about them? And did you not know that some of them were wearing cornflower blue?

So what you might ask! Well before the NSDAP had power in Austria (before the Anschluß) Nazis in Austria wore it to tell other Nazis they were Nazis! 4/n

Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024

@DP0 @luckytran and as far as the US and abroad fascism has been on the rise for far longer than Covid.

If there is any amount of correlation it’s so minimal that it means next to nil.

The NHS and others should leave this to historians and not make up crap.

If it was a matter of the amount of deaths why did the Italians murder Duce and his wife and then publicly display them? That terrified Hitler so much he made sure that couldn’t happen to him! 5/n

Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024

@DP0 @luckytran Btw: Hitler said very early on that if Germany were to come back they needed a genius dictator. By which he meant himself. Not many heard that but he said it.

He ALSO said to Wiedemann in 38: 'I'm not here to ensure peace in Europe; I'm here to make Germany great again. If that can be done peacefully, well and good. If not, we'll have to do it differently.'

Again this should be left to historians not medical people. 5/n (or was it 6?)

Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024

@DP0 @luckytran and I have a great deal of medical experience. Indeed doctors have asked me if I was a doctor and recently a now retired doctor of mine even pointed out that I am good with dosing. I don’t know enough to be a doctor but if I could deal with uni and residency and people I would be a good doctor.

But I have also studied the NSDAP, the Second World War and the Holocaust for many many years. 7/n

Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024
@DP0 @luckytran .. and this thought is nothing more than post hoc ergo propter hoc. 8/n
Show threadCody Boone Ferguson
@DP0 @luckytran and although I didn’t touch that much on Duce there’s enough: fascism does feed off fear and other things but nobody wants to be a dictator because of a pandemic! They want the power! That’s very simple. It should be obvious. 9/n
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Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024
@DP0 @luckytran and to those who don’t know: Hitler was not made chancellor until January. When Hindenburg died there was a vote (not that it mattered) and it was something like 95% voted for the Nazis. Hitler said ‘thus I have conquered Germany’. Hindenburg also told him to bring the troublemakers to reason and told Hitler something like ‘my dear Chancellor, all those who make history must be able to shed blood’. 10/n
Show threadCody Boone FergusonJun 27, 2024
@DP0 @luckytran Finally contrary to popular belief the SA WAS plotting to take over. Göring’s FA had evidence of it. Even so some made use of the opportunity to settle old scores. Hitler almost felt used.