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@internetarchive Torrenting is the only way.
@ml @internetarchive bittorrent (and all other current alternatives afaik) don't have any sort of anonymization, so ISPs can surveil torrent peers and cut off your access. it's not clear to me yet how to apply the consistent hashing used in most DHTs to tor's model yet, but tor may expose a sort of internal node ID that could be similarly used to achieve consistent hashing? @torproject has there been work to anonymize DHTs via tor or other alternatives?

@hipsterelectron Tor actually has a FAQ asking people to not use Tor for bittorrent because it stresses the network

IPFS has done some work in this space, we're not sure how far along that aspect is

@ireneista their website says ipfs is not private and to use something else if you want privacy i was checking it out yesterday

@hipsterelectron oh. drat.

I2p is an overlay network that does support bittorrent, although that falls significantly short of true anonymization, for reasons you can probably already see

@ireneista tor's anonymity via noise addition is less interesting to me anyway; VPNs can be used to interface but i recall hearing that some VPNs don't like being used for seedboxes. the level of privacy sufficient to mask participation in a particular swarm to an ISP seems less stringent than tor's guarantees and the consistent hashing needed for a DHT seems like something that could be achieved with any other identifier, but masking identity to all other participants in the swarm seems necessary as well and may be more difficult than i'm hoping :(
@hipsterelectron yeah - well the stickiest part we see is that using an identifier for the DHT means that it is, um, an identifier. "identity" only means being able to say "these two things are, in some sense, the same". you can make it a resettable pseudonym but anything done under that pseudonym will still be possible for other participants to correlate

@ireneista @hipsterelectron

and even if you change the pseudonym regularly, if you advertise the same set of dht entries your pseudonyms can also be correlated with each other.

@tryst @hipsterelectron yes, that's what we were alluding to in the next toot
@tryst @hipsterelectron oh sorry not the next one, but further down the replies
@ireneista @hipsterelectron ah, yeah. that’s what i get for writing a thing and waiting 90 minutes before posting it :)
@tryst @hipsterelectron oh no problem! thanks for joining the convo, regardless :)