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Show threadMitex LeoJun 25, 2024
@internetarchive Torrenting is the only way.
Show threadd@nny disc@ mc²Jun 25, 2024
@ml @internetarchive bittorrent (and all other current alternatives afaik) don't have any sort of anonymization, so ISPs can surveil torrent peers and cut off your access. it's not clear to me yet how to apply the consistent hashing used in most DHTs to tor's model yet, but tor may expose a sort of internal node ID that could be similarly used to achieve consistent hashing? @torproject has there been work to anonymize DHTs via tor or other alternatives?
Show threadIrenes (many)Jun 25, 2024

@hipsterelectron Tor actually has a FAQ asking people to not use Tor for bittorrent because it stresses the network

IPFS has done some work in this space, we're not sure how far along that aspect is

Show threadd@nny disc@ mc²Jun 25, 2024
@ireneista their website says ipfs is not private and to use something else if you want privacy i was checking it out yesterday
Show threadIrenes (many)Jun 25, 2024

@hipsterelectron oh. drat.

I2p is an overlay network that does support bittorrent, although that falls significantly short of true anonymization, for reasons you can probably already see

Show threadd@nny disc@ mc²Jun 25, 2024
@ireneista tor's anonymity via noise addition is less interesting to me anyway; VPNs can be used to interface but i recall hearing that some VPNs don't like being used for seedboxes. the level of privacy sufficient to mask participation in a particular swarm to an ISP seems less stringent than tor's guarantees and the consistent hashing needed for a DHT seems like something that could be achieved with any other identifier, but masking identity to all other participants in the swarm seems necessary as well and may be more difficult than i'm hoping :(
Show threadd@nny disc@ mc²Jun 25, 2024
@ireneista looking at i2p now, thanks for mentioning
Show threadbeka valentineJun 25, 2024
@hipsterelectron @ireneista veilid's probably a better option for the backbone of a private file sharing system tbh
Show threadIrenes (many)Jun 25, 2024
@beka_valentine @hipsterelectron can you say more about why?
Show threadbeka valentineJun 26, 2024

@ireneista @hipsterelectron designed to support onion routing internally for all messages, and in testing it seems to be quite fast in doing so

biggest problem right now is lack of deployment

Show threadIrenes (many)
@beka_valentine @hipsterelectron isn't that true of I2P as well?
Jun 26, 2024 at 12:32amWeb
Show threadbeka valentineJun 26, 2024
@ireneista @hipsterelectron i2p may or may not do onion routing, i dunno, but i2p is just a vpn-like infra, afaik. it doesnt have a bunch of the other important stuff required to make a file sharing system work. plus iinm i2p is also asymmetric in that the client is tunneled but the server is visible. so its like only the onion routing portion of TOR, absent the hidden sites, which veilid has built in