Just basically gonna have to assume for the rest of our lives that any cloud/content hosting service offered for free is at best temporary and at worst some kind of trap
(Screenshot source is an email I received this morning.)

I think the one free service I trust not to someday fuck up on me is Neocities, and that only because it appears to be run by ideologues (the fact it is run with an explicit anti-growth policy, and that the service it offers is intentionally so limited, also helps)

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I hate that, in the "AI" era, this argument actually makes a lot of sense https://toot.cat/@jamey/112671927674516582
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@[email protected] Given that they've been holding onto the full history but only letting you see the most recent messages for years, I actually think it's an improvement if they start deleting posts that they won't show you anyway. Doesn't make it any less of a trap, of course

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@mcc what makes you think "delete" means actually delete and not update posts set deleted=true
@bob @mcc I think that's how Slack operated until now (i.e. you could see older content again once you started paying). So presumably now they'll actually start deleting
@lutoma @bob I think bob is proposing a scenario where Slack makes the content permanently unavailable to the user, but also copies it to a physical hard drive and puts it in a closet labeled "TO SELL TO OPENAI LATER"

@mcc @bob Oh yeah, I now see that the linked post already said basically the same thing as I did, sorry for the repetition.

But I don't really see the upside for Slack in that scenario since it would not save them any storage costs while removing a powerful sales motivator (And I have no doubts they're already training some AI nonsense on customer data and would sell data to OpenAI or similar in a heartbeat).

@lutoma @bob Perhaps data at rest is less expensive than data in an accessible form. (Note, I don't actually think this is happening, I suspect there are legal consequences for making a public representation that data will be "deleted" and then doing something other than deleting it.)
@mcc @lutoma storing text is as close to free as makes no difference, and marking user content as deleted instead of actually deleting it is very common practice among social media companies
@mcc @lutoma even if you want to delete stuff, on a technical level it's much easier to mark things as deleted and then maybe do a compaction later than it is to actually delete it. even if you're just using a sql database an update query that sets the deleted flag (even if that flag is indexed) is a lot cheaper than a delete query
@mcc @lutoma and if you have some kind of data lake that you use for ETL and analytics deleting stuff from there is very hard
@mcc @lutoma that's assuming you even know where all the copies of the data are, which if you have the kind of architecture that puts everything in a big message bus and lets services subscribe to it you do not