@WuMargaret @mekkaokereke

that's true but what floods socials is "both sides the same" anti-intellectualism and troll farms pushing people to not vote with learned helplessness

so you get this cross chatter

"why are you standing against valid honest criticism of biden?" (they're not, the trolls are real and need push back)

vs

"why are trying to help trump" (they're not, they're engaged in honest criticism of biden and will vote for him)

so trolling works: everyone suspicious of motivations

@benroyce @WuMargaret

They are not "pushing back on trolls." They're shutting down valid criticism of Biden or any other centrists, mainly from Black folk. They know that we are (some of the very few!) real Black people on the fediverse. They just don't care.🤷🏿‍♂️

They don't accept anyone not showing fealty to Biden. They feel entitled to 95% or 100% of the Black vote. They say as much.

And some folk that have valid criticism of Biden will not vote for him. About 1 in every 5 Black men in fact.

@mekkaokereke @benroyce @WuMargaret
I'm sorry, but you pulled that "20% of black men won't vote for #Biden" stat out of your ass.

There is NOTHING anyone (regardless of race) can criticize Biden for that #TheOrangeMenace wouldn't be DEMONSTRABLY worse on.

@MugsysRapSheet @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret

if some 0 follower russian troll farm hack starts spouting divide and conquer learned helplessness "both sides the same" bs, squash them

but mekka is not remotely that

he's got receipts and i always learn from his insights

i've clashed with plenty of biden criticism on mastodon and most of the time it ends with "but i'm still voting biden"

so let the man speak

listen

and learn

do you see the optics of a bunch of wypipo yelling at a black guy?

@benroyce @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret
Saying, "It usually ends with: I'm still voting for #Biden", isn't what he said.

He's playing a dangerous game, discouraging support for the person with the best chance of defeating a #Hitler-quoting #Dictator-wannabe serial #adulterer #racist #sexist billionaire #conman who is SO massively incompetent, 405K Americans died (arguably) preventable deaths under him (and resulted in another 800K after leaving.)

Vs an honest & effective potus with record low UE.

@MugsysRapSheet @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret

many people have valid problems with biden, myself included, but understand why it's important to vote for him

so you see complaints about biden but for all you know it's just someone working out their frustrations, registering them, and they will vote for biden in nov

see that for what it is

but if you hit them with this "YOU WILL FALL IN LINE AND SHUT UP," especially when it's a bunch of white folk yelling at a black dude, do you see the problem?

@benroyce @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret
Again, I point out that he NEVER indicated he'll still support #Biden.

He's playing a dangerous game.

@MugsysRapSheet @benroyce @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret maybe another way to describe the underlying fear here, is that wishy washy whites have a scorpion nature and Dems are the frogs trying to cross the river with them tied to our back.

I dont believe for a second that Mr Okereke isn't voting for Biden, he is far more thoughtful than that, but it's hard to have normal political discussions about politicians who are bad in normal ways when there isn't a sane opposition and not voting is suicide