@WuMargaret @mekkaokereke

that's true but what floods socials is "both sides the same" anti-intellectualism and troll farms pushing people to not vote with learned helplessness

so you get this cross chatter

"why are you standing against valid honest criticism of biden?" (they're not, the trolls are real and need push back)

vs

"why are trying to help trump" (they're not, they're engaged in honest criticism of biden and will vote for him)

so trolling works: everyone suspicious of motivations

@benroyce @WuMargaret

They are not "pushing back on trolls." They're shutting down valid criticism of Biden or any other centrists, mainly from Black folk. They know that we are (some of the very few!) real Black people on the fediverse. They just don't care.🤷🏿‍♂️

They don't accept anyone not showing fealty to Biden. They feel entitled to 95% or 100% of the Black vote. They say as much.

And some folk that have valid criticism of Biden will not vote for him. About 1 in every 5 Black men in fact.

@mekkaokereke @benroyce @WuMargaret
I'm sorry, but you pulled that "20% of black men won't vote for #Biden" stat out of your ass.

There is NOTHING anyone (regardless of race) can criticize Biden for that #TheOrangeMenace wouldn't be DEMONSTRABLY worse on.

@MugsysRapSheet @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret

if some 0 follower russian troll farm hack starts spouting divide and conquer learned helplessness "both sides the same" bs, squash them

but mekka is not remotely that

he's got receipts and i always learn from his insights

i've clashed with plenty of biden criticism on mastodon and most of the time it ends with "but i'm still voting biden"

so let the man speak

listen

and learn

do you see the optics of a bunch of wypipo yelling at a black guy?

@benroyce @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret
Saying, "It usually ends with: I'm still voting for #Biden", isn't what he said.

He's playing a dangerous game, discouraging support for the person with the best chance of defeating a #Hitler-quoting #Dictator-wannabe serial #adulterer #racist #sexist billionaire #conman who is SO massively incompetent, 405K Americans died (arguably) preventable deaths under him (and resulted in another 800K after leaving.)

Vs an honest & effective potus with record low UE.

@MugsysRapSheet @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret

many people have valid problems with biden, myself included, but understand why it's important to vote for him

so you see complaints about biden but for all you know it's just someone working out their frustrations, registering them, and they will vote for biden in nov

see that for what it is

but if you hit them with this "YOU WILL FALL IN LINE AND SHUT UP," especially when it's a bunch of white folk yelling at a black dude, do you see the problem?

@benroyce @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret
Again, I point out that he NEVER indicated he'll still support #Biden.

He's playing a dangerous game.

@MugsysRapSheet @benroyce @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret this is a real life trolly problem exactly, I'm happy to pull the lever for Biden but somebody is getting runover by the trolly, the chance to switch to a better track where no one is tied to it and in peril was past a long time ago and requires a much less racist white electorate to make better choices, like, you pull the lever for Biden and maybe Gaza is tied to the track, and you'd like it if _noone_ was but that isnt on the path anymore

@raven667 @MugsysRapSheet @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret

we need ranked choice voting to get better choices

#rcv

it's creeping in (maine, nyc, etc), mostly under democrat acquiescence, while the GOP is all about voter suppression

so vote democrat and demand rcv

@benroyce @MugsysRapSheet @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret yeah there are more healthy voting systems, although those are no guarantee of progressive outcomes as they still depend on the electorate not being crazy with supremecist colonialist culture, but to enact them you have to be able to sieze power in the existing unfair system to force those changes to happen, a system that was originally designed to mediate destructive disputes among the wealthy elite only, not fully democratic.

@raven667 @MugsysRapSheet @mekkaokereke @WuMargaret

exactly

the system sucks

but you don't just throw up your hands and let malice win- because revolution? not happening, fantasyland. mutual aid, direct action, and protest? well if you let malice have the system they machine gun you

so you do all that is good outside the system, *and* you vote

because it's so little effort to sabotage the malice you're fighting, not because you believe it will be rainbows and unicorns as to the outcome