Bruno BEAUFILSFed up with my original mastodon instance behaviour and want to really boost federation concept.
Any advice where to migrate?
Should I go for a self hosted one?
Any advice on how to migrate smoothly?
Yoan@beaufils
I had the idea to setup esr.social for french researchers #ESR with a Mangane instance (which is more similar to X in terms of UI). That would require a team leader setting up a small team to operate/moderate/advertise this instance, to give trust into it by avoiding a monoadmin user. There are multiple researchers and institutional accounts who could certainly join it and/or give a hand on these topics. But never had enough energy to set this up đ€
See https://framapiaf.org/@myoan/111878036600765525
I had the idea to setup esr.social for french researchers #ESR with a Mangane instance (which is more similar to X in terms of UI). That would require a team leader setting up a small team to operate/moderate/advertise this instance, to give trust into it by avoiding a monoadmin user. There are multiple researchers and institutional accounts who could certainly join it and/or give a hand on these topics. But never had enough energy to set this up đ€
See https://framapiaf.org/@myoan/111878036600765525
Yoan (@[email protected])
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@beaufils (what is boost federation BTW? đ€)
Aligning my thoughts & ideas on federation with my use of mastodon.
Being on a *too big* instance breaks the spirit of the whole thing IMHO.
I would appreciate to benefit from experience/expertise of people who had time to study and experiment more than me.
For instance, before migrating to a single hosted instance or a much larger shared one, I would like to list pro and cons of each approach as well as technical requirements (RAM, disk, admin time, etc.).
Aral Balkan@beaufils @myoan @mwl Ok, so off the top of my head:
Mastodon isnât really designed for single-person instances; everything about it overkill for this use case. Is it possible, yes? Will it be using up way more resources than necessary? Yes. Will you run into scaling issues on a single-person instance? If you have a lot of followers *and* you engage with them, yes, you could end up launching a denial-of-service attack on yourself each time you reply to an active threadâŠ
@beaufils @myoan @mwl ⊠(See https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/)
It will also take time and effort to run your own instance, even if youâre technically capable. This is why I have the way more capable @jan run my instance at https://toot.io. Very happy with it there (see https://toot.io/mastodon_hosting.html). Iâm on the community plan, I believe.
Hth :)
Is the fediverse about to get Fryed? (Or, âWhy every toot is also a potential denial of service attackâ)
Every time I post something that gets lots of engagement, I essentially end up carrying out a denial of service attack on myself. What does this say about the design of Mastodon and ActivityPub and the future of the fediverse?
Michael W Lucas 
Jim@sullybiker @aral @myoan @mwl
Thanks.
That is what I feared.
@sullybiker @beaufils @aral @myoan
I'm told gotosocial is good for single users, and I have hope for snac.
Jens đ€@beaufils
In my experience so far, gotosocial has required both minimal resources and maintenance.
You give up on having a built-in web client, but if you only need to host a single user / household / polycule it is pretty ideal.
@sullybiker
@mwl
@aral @myoan
In my experience so far, gotosocial has required both minimal resources and maintenance.
You give up on having a built-in web client, but if you only need to host a single user / household / polycule it is pretty ideal.
@sullybiker
@mwl
@aral @myoan
Luis Villa@aral a question I've never seen a concise answer to: is the problem you're describing a Mastodon problem or an ActivityPub problem?
@luis_in_brief Both. Theyâre intertwined, although it is possible to make less resource intensive/single-person ActivityPub servers, the multi-user aspect is part of the protocol.
pyche@beaufils depending on your usage you could also set up your own pleroma instance. Took me one evening to set up mine. I'm using a cheap vps to run it, with some other services on it too.
4vcpu cores (didn't find what cpu they are using) and 6gb ram
4vcpu cores (didn't find what cpu they are using) and 6gb ram
DanielI can share my experience with a self-hosted single-user Mastodon instance. I tried it back in 2020. I was unable to successfully run it on any Cloud VPS server that had less than 4GB of RAM and 2 vCPU. This cost me $20 USD per month (plus a few extra $$$ for automatic backups). When I tried to install it on a cheaper/lower-spec server, I could either not get past the installation without encountering Out of Memory errors, or I could get it running but anytime I tried to do something like add media to a post, I would get Out of Memory errors.
Nevertheless I tried it for a few months, but I decided to shut it down due to the $20+ USD per month price tag. It was during the Covid-19 pandemic and I had other monthly bills to focus on.
Fast-forward to 2024 and I wanted to try setting up a self-hosted single-user instance again, but without the high cost, so I went with another fediverse software compatible with ActivityPub. I'm running it on a server with only 1GB RAM and 1 vCPU which I'm currently paying $5 USD per month plus an extra $1 for automatic backups. The cost is more manageable for me and I haven't had any technical issues with it yet, it just works.
If you are looking to stay on Mastodon, there is a service called @mastohost and they have a plan that starts at $6 USD per month and is fully managed by @hugo. It looks pretty cool. Perhaps you can ask him about a self-hosted single-user instance on that Moon plan.
Soapbox front-end / Rebased back-end.
wI've played around with Pleroma and snac2 for a single-user instance. they're both easier to install and maintain than mastodon. snac2 is a lot easier to deal with in general and it has the added benefit of having a UI that isn't a clone of twitter
CC: @[email protected]
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Why not join your force with https://social.sciences.re / https://sciences.re for that.
Cc @contact
If I migrate I think I need something more large in terms of topics (even if sciences.re is not retricted).
