catixJun 20, 2024
alina 🌸
dear americans

nobody outside usa knows what the fuck are EST EDT ET PST CST and 289191 other "standard" timezones.
please for the love of god use UTC+X

sincerely, ​​
Apr 8, 2024 at 3:50amWeb
Show threadalina 🌸Apr 8, 2024
we should abolish dst, too
absolutely stupid thing
Show threadKevin Karhan Apr 10, 2024
@teidesu #DaylightSavingsTime is just #torture...
Show threadWitch Aly   Apr 8, 2024
@teidesu or utc-x in the case of me 
Show threadalina 🌸Apr 8, 2024
@[email protected] i never said x can't be negative /lh
Show threadGNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) Apr 8, 2024
Quite sure all americans are UTC-X

CC: @[email protected]
Show thread𝓢𝔂𝓭𝓷𝓮𝔂 <3   Apr 9, 2024
@eris @ezio @teidesu UTC + -8
Show threadForgetful Bri Apr 9, 2024
@sydney @eris @ezio @teidesu
UTC±8
Show thread🦾ChatGPT hyphen🤖Apr 13, 2024
@sydney @eris @ezio @teidesu
sqrt((UTC^2 + EST^2 +EDT^2 + PST^2 + CST^2)/5)  
Do USians even know what UTC is? I mean, maybe it's sold under GMT brand in their parts 
Show threadRichard "RichiH" HartmannSep 8, 2024
@eris @ezio @teidesu military bases..
Show threadssh://thepinkhacker.comSep 8, 2024

@eris @ezio @teidesu simply represent it as a unsigned 8-bit integer.
For instance my time zone is UTC+253

No, this is not confusing in any way

Show threadBlyfhApr 9, 2024
@ezio @teidesu UTC+X where X < 0
:P
Show threadMortSinyxApr 8, 2024
@teidesu, also the CET EET WET bullshits used by ropians
Show threadxrvsApr 8, 2024
@cnx @teidesu omg it’s so WET
Show threadZumi | nkiApr 8, 2024
@xarvos @cnx @teidesu CET includes daylight savings behavior not in UTC+x right?
Show threadxrvsApr 8, 2024
@nki @cnx @teidesu i thought summer time would be CEST or something?
Show threadZumi | nkiApr 8, 2024
@xarvos @cnx @teidesu that’s true  my bad
Show threadcoolbean (account has been reverted to before we moved back to this instance)Apr 9, 2024
@cnx @teidesu ok but the thing is we dont actually use those expecting anyone to know em, i just use em to make distasteful jokes about central european summer time (CEST)
Show thread⭐NINIKA⭐️ 🦀Apr 8, 2024
@teidesu So true.. When I see any of the "standard times" I have to put it into a converter to get any idea on when it actually is
Show threadnoah !! Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu all negative timebros should be forced into summer time and positive timebros into winter time. it only makes sense.
Show threadMitsunee | 光音Apr 9, 2024
@noah @teidesu I have friends in australia whose DST change goes in the other direction (similar to how Winter and Summer is swapped there) so the timezone difference changes by 2 hours.
Show threadnoah !! Apr 9, 2024
@mitsunee @teidesu yeah i mean generally just to be close to gmt
Show threadgaviApr 9, 2024
@teidesu ET phone home
Show thread루나 아리아 이레니아 Luna Aria Ielenia ​Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu will you accept America/Los_Angeles since my utc offset changes for no good reason twice a year

 - posted by Ielenia
Show thread4censord  :now: at kubecon!Apr 9, 2024
@ielenia @teidesu this is acceptable
Show threadleap123Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu Asia/Jakarta 
Show threadGaelan SteeleApr 9, 2024
@teidesu oh hm, I've always preferred "Pacific" because it's independent of daylight savings/summer time, but that's a good point
Show threadMitsunee | 光音Apr 9, 2024

@teidesu as part of making a fansite for a game only published in america I got to deal with their timezones in news articles and (at least) 4 DST changes a year (theirs and mine) confusing me constantly.

It took them 5 years to start putting UTC+X next to the timezone shortcodes, by which point I already had a script to turn their date format into unix timestamps anyways...

Show threadhi im verna from dogApr 9, 2024
@teidesu americans dont understand most of these either, utc+x is common here as well but CST is used for television. there are a lot of specific timezones that no one here cares about aside from stating their location for other americans
Show threadLuciano Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu tbh saying that you're in GMT+3 is better than EEST when converting times
Show threadmercurial yapper (now in plasmatrap.com)Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu frr why are they making these the standard? Pretty use GMT/UTC was literally made to be the standard. Pffft 'mericans tryna be quirky again.
Show threadgkrnoursApr 9, 2024
@teidesu I just found out CST is for "standard" time while CEST is for "summer" time which is the non-standard one :/
Show threadElodyke 👽🪐🛸🌠Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu isn't ET that weird alien thing with the creepy finger from that one movie?
Show threadLilith Ashley Nyx Arson Apr 9, 2024
@CrebboElodie @teidesu yes
Show threadLilith Ashley Nyx Arson Apr 9, 2024
@CrebboElodie @teidesu it stands for extraterrestrial
Show threadAntoine MussoApr 9, 2024

@teidesu then how do you deal with daylight saving time? (you have missed CDT, PDT, MST/MDT etc). Cause having a meeting at noon utc+1 might be confusing when saving time kicks in at different time across the world!
Fun twist: some US states have two timezone, some have counties with DST and those without (ex: Arizona).

#IAgreeItIsAMess

Show threaddrěvo dužestv:oooooo:ĺno 🍕🍍Apr 9, 2024
@hashar then you can just write whatever timezone abbreviation AND an UTC offset in the brackets afterwards, most of the time meetings are not hold on dst days. It's like 3 seconds for you and sometimes half of an hour for the recipient.

I actually had to send a confirmation email about an exact tz offset a few times because I had zero idea where the person was atm (can be Australia) and there is more then one timezone named "central time".

thanks.

@teidesu
Show threadLucyApr 9, 2024
@teidesu very relatable
Show threadKyle Brown Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu 8 PM Eastern and Pacific, 8:30 in Newfoundland
Show threadJames EndicottApr 9, 2024
@teidesu

EST is UTC-5, it turns into EDT (which is UTC-4) from March until November. ET is whichever of those it is right now.

Because that's where our financial center, New York, and our central government are located, that's the only one you need most of the time.

I'm not saying it isn't dumb or annoying but that's probably the simplest way to deal with it.
Show threadTanith the GayApr 9, 2024
@teidesu Well, 'f ya wantct as a general specification (as in, sth in their bio or so) they should prolly base't on GMT rather than UTC, cuase otherwise they'd needa switch't whenever they switch between summer n winter time (UTC's same as GMT in winter).
Show threadBraw ☕🏳️‍🌈Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu there's a neat trick like https://time.is/EST
Eastern Standard Time

Exact time now, time zone, time difference, sunrise/sunset time and key facts for Eastern Standard Time (EST).

Show threadDawn Tåke 🌙 Apr 9, 2024

@teidesu
Well, it would be GDT - [whatever], not + [whatever], but yeah.  

For funsies, I tried to write it out. PDT (west coast) is -8.

GMT-8
•︎•︎•︎•︎•︎•︎•︎•︎PST - MST - CST - EST
PDT - MDT - CDT - EDT

Note, Alaskan and Hawaiian timezones are cursed and ignored by the continental 48.

Show threadShantell PowellApr 9, 2024
@teidesu I’m not in the US and don’t understand the UTC convention.
Show threadJes Moved to @[email protected]Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu I'm in the America/New_York time
Show threadmikiApr 9, 2024
@teidesu UTC+X doesn't really make sense though because of daylight saving.
Show threadDemiApr 9, 2024

@miki @teidesu Why not though? It just goes from UTC-4 to UTC-5 instead of EST to EDT for instance, doesn't it?

(not sure if I did it right but my point stands)

Show threadmikiApr 10, 2024
@Demirramon @teidesu Let's say there's an online meeting that happens every week at 11:30, New York time. There's no way to express this in UTC offsets without specifying when the offset changes in what way.
Show threadDemiApr 10, 2024
@miki @teidesu In that particular case, "New York Time" would be the best way of saying it. That's already way better than saying "every day at 11:30 ET" because that requires the reader to know how US time zones work.
Show threadmikiApr 10, 2024
@Demirramon @teidesu Yeah, I guess the operating system way, AKA "pick one city that uses the given timezone and go with it" is one way to do it. It would cause weird edge cases when states change timezones, but time is just going to be annoying like that, no matter what you do.
Show threadglowingskull 💀🎃Sep 10, 2024
@miki @Demirramon @teidesu This works, except what if someone wants a timezone that doesn't have a major city in it? I want a UTC+14 clock, not a "where the fuck is that?" clock.
Show threadgreeeen :nb_verified::verifiedbi::verifiedlesbian:Apr 10, 2024
@miki @teidesu you have to change it twice per year. if you specify UTC+X correctly, i can just subtract it from my UTC, and i don't have to know if your country uses daylight savings or on what particular date it starts. like for an event it works, but for specifying the timezone you live in, it only works if your country is sensible and doesn't do summer time. like for germany i have to say that i;m both UTC+1 and UTC+2 which is annoying ​​
Show threadnano's old account's rotting corpseApr 9, 2024
@teidesu Europe/London :3
Show threadTea   Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu im an american and this kind of shit makes my head hurt

just use UTC+X 
Show threadClaire Elaina :bi_verify::trans_verify:Sep 8, 2024
@[email protected] @teidesu who made this? i would like to talk to them
Show threadLinusApr 9, 2024
@teidesu I'ma keep it a stack idk if I'm in UTC+8 or +7 most of the time. Europe uses WET CET and EET (and st varients in the summer) and the US only really uses EST CST MST and PST. I don't think it's unfair for both Europe and the US to learn each other's timezones and how to use UTC+X. Esp if your in a situation where knowing the timezone is relivant, nether of them are really complicated ngl
Show threadburneApr 9, 2024
@teidesu /me waves from CET/CEST
Show threadArnim Sommer 🇪🇺Apr 9, 2024
@teidesu
Isn't UTC± metric?😉
@maxheadroom