miskYouTube is experimenting with Notes, a crowdsourced feature that lets users add context to videos | TechCrunch
cornsharkWait, didn’t this feature already exist for years and then was shut down??
I feel like this is what the comment section is used for.
driving_croonerCan the channel owner delete comments on their videos?
Yes, as well as automatically hiding new comments.
which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down
snooggumsIt also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media.
Honestly, I’d rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports.
Enough reports is how brigades are effective.
There isn’t a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions.
Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that’s deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated.
It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it’s not happening. Best we’re getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI.
It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments.
Which one is worse depends on the context of the video.
NeatoAnd Youtube will 100% allow creators to hide notes, as well. Corporations will not allow themselves to be criticized on their own pages.
helenslunchComments section are not voted on by users.
? They absolutely are…
Technically they are, but I’m not sure how confident I am in YouTube showing you comments I a reasonable order regardless.
gen/Eric ComputersSo the upvotes and downvotes in the comments don’t do anything?
Probably not. Or maybe every vote counts as “engagement” and pushes it to the top.
I value my mental health too much to regularly dive into the YouTube comment section
I must be watching different videos than the people complaining about YouTube comments. The ones I see are virtually all positive.
Don’t just look at the comments. Look at the replies to the top comments. 8 out of 10 times they turn super toxic super quickly in my experience.
Yeah that’ll end well I’m sure.
another chance to provide free labour to train their AI!
I’m sure the annotations will be intelligent and insightful…
Yeah clearly training data does get much review for these peasant facing products. I am assuming real tool will take legions of pros to properly tune up.
The issue not LLM per we, the issue is that none of these clown companies appear to do Amy data quality control. They just rush whatever janky thing they got to drive headlines.
👍Maximum Derek👍It’s our duty to describe all videos as pizza glue recipes.
SouthFreshI give this about two weeks before they realize that it’s as effective at helping their advertising as having dislike buttons are.
I am not condoning poisoning of this well of information, but I will laugh my ass off when it inevitably occurs.
FeelThePowerI condone poisoning this feature with false info. maybe it will teach them that the dislikes should be public again. using an extension is cool and all, but so many people still don’t know about it.
It really is unfortunate as it COULD be a really good feature if it were being implemented by someone who wasn’t just trying to crowdsource AI training data that will go into commercial products without compensation to anyone. It could be a great tool for professionals and experts to expand on what creators say, a way to call out falsehoods and Hypocrites, and a way to find your people in a world that is growing ever bleaker. But no, it is just being done to force more ads down our throats and harvest more money from us.
And, once they discontinue it, I hope someone creates an add-on to bring it back like they did with dislikes.
It’s a bit out-of-scope, but it’d be a great SponsorBlock feature!
VoyajerSo now we have to read a community note to know a video is garbage instead of just seeing a massive dislike bar and clicking off?
Didn’t they take away the dislike button?
JesusThe removed the dislike count a couple years ago, so you can no longer see if a video is terrible.
The thumbnail and title alone is typically enough to know how garbage it is.
NutWrench“Return YouTube Dislike” extension for Firefox and Chrome.
Works surprisingly well even after all this time. I often forget its been removed.
It isn’t a real count of users who have clicked the dislike button, YouTube no longer makes that data available.
So I would not put much stock in that number.
I’m well aware of how it works.
Then why put any stock in it whatsoever
Because it is quite accurate
And you’re basing that conclusion on…?
Creators can view their like and dislike percentage, and around when the extension came about, many large youtubers were able to confirm the accuracy of the guesstimate that the extension gives you (on new content after the dislike indicator was removed). There are enough users and historical data to make the calculations reeeeally close.
It’s not real though, you do know that right? There isn’t some hidden dislike count that YT has that the extension accesses…
It is real, it’s just not data from YouTube. The information on how it works is made very clear, and people using it should be aware of the drawbacks.
Can confirm it is real, I have it installed right now via revanced, Grayjay, and Firefox extension.
Also, I have a terrible imagination, but that’s OK, as it’s open source and you can see how it’s calculated on their github.
It takes the ration of likes to dislikes from users of the service, and applies that ratio to the total number of likes to estimate the total number of dislikes.
It also archived a lot of video’s dislike counts before the dislike field was removed from the API.
It’s “real” as in it exists, but you say so yourself that it’s just an estimate.
demonswordyou can still see that number on smarttube
LOL definitely a real comment by a real person. Dislike bar…
It was a bar that showed the ratio of likes to dislikes
RetiringI don’t see what was wrong with the comment of /u/voyajer. Can you elaborate?
The dislike bar was real, I’ll tell ya, I’ve lived nigh on eighty years and me own two eyes seent the dislike bar clear as day! Ye better believe, sonny, it’s the truth!
Yeah, the dislike bar used to be a thing. You could see how many dislikes there were compared to likes, all represented on a line below the two buttons. It was sort of like this image, except imagine the “yes” and “no” as a single line.
Sidyctism II.Wait till you tell him youtube used to have a 5-star rating system
GormadtRe-Enabling the dislike button would help too
Nah. Low value signal. Easy to game.
I agree but there’s also an add-on for that
kellenoffdagrid❓️Yeah but it’s not that accurate, and it leaves most normal mobile users out of the picture. I know YouTube knew exactly what they were doing when they removed dislikes, but it still seems absolutely insane to remove such a useful tool for sifting through the bullshit.
It was removed because Biden got too many downvotes. It’ll be back soon. It was stupid of them to take it away.
That’s not why it was removed
It was removed not long after one of their Rewind vids was disliked to hell.
And it ain’t coming back, at least they haven’t so much as hinted at it
Nah, that’s what they told you and you believed. Don’t be a fool for the media. It’s a bad look.