Apple announced RCS with a whimper when it should have been a bang

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Apple announced RCS with a whimper when it should have been a bang - Lemmy.World

IIRC, it’s controlled by the carrier and not encrypted. If that’s the case, it’s bad. We’ve been moving away from carriers and internet providers, and got some privacy back by various means. Why would be roll that back?
Because everyone is too distracted by “Apple bad” to realise how truly awful RCS is.
Except RCS isn’t awful at all. It’s also end to end encrypted on androids. If Apple’s participation isn’t encrypted, that’s on Apple.
Only Google’s proprietary extension has encryption. The actual industry standard specification of RCS has no encryption defined at all.
Yes, that’s the right thing todo. My understanding was that Google went down this path and didn’t succeed, so went ahead with their own. Maybe have the other major mobile os onboard will be enough to get the carriers off their asses
So….Apple good?
I’ll take that as a win!
Well find out when they push the update.

Doesn’t rcs depend on having mobile data or internet access on? If I understand it right it is strictly worse than sms.

Many people just have data off most of the time and sending messages with the system app assumes things are delivered immediately and everyone easily receives them. If you forget your data is off or don’t have internet for a while then you end up assuming people received stuff when they didn’t.

All phone isps have basically unlimited sms for free when data is paid in huge amounts of gold.

Sms > Rcs

It’s not worse than SMS in any fashion. Just like SMS, RCS will tell you when your text is actually delivered. You will never assume somebody received something that they didn’t. Furthermore RCS offers read receipt functionality which will additionally let you know your message was read. SMS is not capable of that.

And as for having no data connection, your phone will fall back to SMS same as iMessages do.

Most people definitely DONT have unlimited data plans. In fact they are so limited and expensive that many just have the data turned off and rely on public wifi connections everywhere they go to use internet.

Nobody needs to bother with sms delivery because it just works. The only time it doesn’t is if someone has their phones turned off.

Sending media is just a nice to have, not necessary.

Nope, most people do have unlimited data plans. And unless you live in some tiny, mountainous, Eastern European backwater, the plans aren’t actually that expensive either. And even if you truly are a time traveler from the year 2002 like you appear to be, even if you have an incredibly limited 5GB data plan, you’ll be happy to know that even if you reach your data cap, you will still have data connectivity enough to use RCS without issue. All that happens when you “run out” of data on phone plans is your throttled down to a slower speed that is still more than sufficient to sent text messages over RCS.
My experience is that the tiny, mountainous, Eastern European backwaters are the places with the cheapest plans, and places like Germany and Canada have the worst ones.