I think because guys are pound for pound stronger than girls. I’ve read stories on Reddit years ago by girls who are wrestlers or fighters and get into a playful tussle with some random guy and they describe it as terrifying.

On average, but there’s outliers.

Like, there are women out there with higher testorone than the average man, and crazy is a huge factor.

I played rugby in college and we hung out with the women’s team and drunk coed wrestling was definitely a common thing.

Every once and a while a non rugby player would think it was just an excuse to roll around with a hot chick, and they would get absolutely demolished. Like I’m not talking about underestimating the woman and losing quickly due to technical skill. Just getting absolutely manhandled by a girl without the socially ingrained fear of violence and pain. Like, I was one of the biggest guys on the men’s team and had wrestling experience, I still lost to some of them. Women almost a foot shorter and that I had more than 50 pounds on. Because they really wanted that W and kept trying till they got it.

Hell, for two years we had coed practice including full speed tackling and scrimmages. Top end speed was usually the only clear difference, and even then the fastest five players on the field was never all guys.

Like, there are women out there with higher testorone than the average man

No, that doesn’t happen, the adrenal glands and ovaries do not produce enough t to reach even very low male levels, testosterone for the most part is produced in the testicules which cis women do not have. that much testosterone would transition a woman into a man, they would grow beard and get a deeper voice, that’s how HRT works for FtMs.

they would grow beard and get a deeper voice, that’s how HRT works for FtMs.

Plenty of people with XY chromosomes can’t grow facial and have a high pitched voice well into their 20s or even after

And plenty of people with XX chromosomes shave/wax/bleach facial hair and have deep voices.

Hormones aren’t binary, there’s a bunch of different hormones that can be in a lot of different ranges

And that’s not even getting into the other options besides XX/XY

Stop trying to make everyone confirm to your binary voices on gender.

He’s not talking about gender he’s talking about sex. Someone born with testicles with XY chromosomes is always going to produce more testosterone than someone born with ovaries with XX chromosomes - assuming both sexual organs are functioning as expected.

assuming

A whole bunch of shit while ignoring all the contex…

I’m talking about 18-22 year olds and the women are on the women’s rugby team comparing them to men who have never needed to shave and their voice hasn’t cracked.

If you think every 18-22 year old guys has been thru puberty…

That’s as ridiculous as not understanding that hight T women would be attracted to high level athletics and then overly represented in elite athletes.

What you are doing is the equivalent of someone who stops paying attention to science in sixth grade but believes they’re an expert at 47.

You got the cliff notes version and think people should address you as Doctor.

Shits a lot more complicated than you think.

A high T woman is 70 ng/dL and that already is starting to imply some sort of adrenal tumor or polycystic ovary syndrome. The normal range is a lot closer to 20~30

A low T man is ~250 ng/dL and average is around 400~500 ng/dL

A woman will not have T levels similar to men because they don’t have testicles. Even the highest T females compared to lowest T men.

The only time this would be true is in 1 in 10 million cases. If that’s your whole argument, then OK. It is theoretically possible if the woman has an adrenal tumor and the man is effectively castrated.

But for virtually all other cases this simply cannot happen due to human physiology.

What do you not understand about 18-22?

Which, if you haven’t noticed, is still the age range of a lot of Olympians and elite athletes.

Hell, some sports average under 18.

It’s like you didn’t even read my comment. You’re just fucking insisting everything fits in your nice little division of two piles and no one else can exist.

It’s the same line of thinking as transphobes…

And I have no desire to ever interact with people stuck in that thinking. And immediately regret trying to help you understand the finer points.