modern programming is like,
"if you're using bongo.rs to parse http headers, you will need to also install bepis to get buffered read support. but please note that bepis switched to using sasquatch for parallel tokenization as of version 0.0.67, so you will need the bongo-sasquatch extension crate as well."
old-time programming is like,
"i made a typo in this function in 1993. theo de raadt got so angry he punched a wall when he saw it. for ABI compatibility reasons, we shan't fix the typo."
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@saddestrobots tired: they called it creat because of a linker limitation
wired: they called it creat so the syscall definitions would line up in a source listing and instantly regretted it when the Berkeley kids started mocking them
inspired: they called it creat because it creats files
@Andres4NY @zzt @saddestrobots linker error: duplicated tokens in definition:
`create`
` ^ ^`
If only markdown worked so I could point to both Es 
@saddestrobots Theo is still kinda like that TBH, though he is probably more likely to just address you using an insulting nickname from this day forward than get physically destructive. Moving mountains is still generally easier than breaking ABI compatibility.
But yeah apart from that particular bubble modern programming is a perpetually raging tyre fire.
@saddestrobots modern web programming is like:
use React...have the React core team change their mind each year and then gas lights everyone into thinking, "no yeah this was always the plan."
@morenonatural @chexum @saddestrobots I usually end up writing a python script or an executable and just running those on the command line.
One time I was asked to parse JSON in a bash script. They recommended that I used sed. I normally do as asked, but that time I just wrote a Python script because all the build servers had it. They accepted it, though. They apparently never thought of it.
@saddestrobots @scottmichaud particularly ps!!
GNU ps seems to have an extremely weird idea of what "BSD ps" is and refuses to operate in "BSD mode" if you use dashes on your options; it just flat out chokes if you use some combinations of options, going "noooo you can't mix GNU and BSD styles!!". Meanwhile OpenBSD ps uses dashes on options perfectly fine and doesn't have any complications like this at all.
"find" vs. "find ." *grr*
My blood boils everytime. :<
💯 nailed it.
@saddestrobots and then people wounder why I want just simple executeables ffs...
also "the comments contain a recipe for french onion soup passed down by my dad's grandmother that, if deleted, cause the project to stop compiling for some reason. we have investigated at length but have no idea why. possibly a segment issue. delete/modify the comments at your own risk"
@saddestrobots Funny and I agree with the overall sentiment, but #OpenBSD breaks ABI with every release.
I don't know Theo de Raadt, so can't say whether he would punch a wall, but he would likely have responded so gruffly as to make the typoist punch a wall.
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tcatypeof null === "object" would break the internet, so instead we need 600 libraries on top to fix it insteadOld time programming is like being handed a stack of headerless tapes with no formats or identification.
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@saddestrobots yea I'm getting way too much into JS lately, and when I looked up a library for something I got onto it's github repo, and it say'd "last release 5 years ago" and ngl
that made it so much more compelling to me
@saddestrobots Theo, of course, wrote about the incident in chapter 6 of his seminal 1996 book "The Circuit Revolution".
Following the depreciation of sasquatch, bepis migrated to ponk2 for parallel tokenisation. In order to upgrade to bepis 0.0.70 or later, users must also migrate from bepis-sasquatch to bepis-ponk2.
@negative12dollarbill And it must stay like that forever.
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This... Is accurate. And disturbing. Mostly disturbing, to be honest, but also very accurate.
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