doodle967Why you like Apple?
this is beautiful
EDIT: this was beautiful
Go back to the Linux circle jerk that is the rest of Lemmy.
misk2 minute old post with no replies, truly unheard of on Lemmy.
What got me was they ruined their own post, and then had to edit it because they were surprised they ruined their own post?
kratoz29I LOVE APPLE
U mad?
Just a little. Big corporations ruin the working class just to eat more profit. I wish they had received less love.
Beaver [she/her]Vertical integration
Security
Privacy
Competitive processors
Progressive company
Pretty ui
Vertical integration and progressive company are good for Apple but for the consumer they are irrelevant I think.
Security is ok, privacy must be a joke, siri is listening, just like google. You have to be logged in to install an app from the store etc…
Pretty limited ui. Some might like it, some may don’t, but they can’t change nothing.
Siri is only “listening” for a key phrase. Siri processes locally, unlike Google Assistant.
Siri learns what you need. Not who you are. What you ask Siri isn’t associated with your Apple ID. The power of the Apple Neural Engine ensures that the audio of your requests never leaves your iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, or Apple Vision Pro unless you choose to share it. On-device intelligence makes your experience with Siri personal — learning your preferences and what you might want — while maintaining your privacy. And, of course, what you share with Siri is never shared with advertisers.
chiisanaOne company spent years building privacy centric image, literally telling governments they cannot get into their clients’ devices; the other spent years finding new and exciting ways to serve targeted ads.
It’s also the reason why Siri was first to market and fell behind Alexa and Google Assistant so quickly. It took Apple a decade (2011-2021) to create the hashed then encrypted relay system to collect private and anonymous recorded feedback from customers who opt-in to improving Siri.
Competition just kept everything as user feedback data. I’ve read horror stories about the people who worked at Alexa recording review sites.
Vertical integration is precisely what stops me from buying apple.
Because I have invested in various non apple technologies (phones, pcs, earphones, vr headsets) which don’t play nicely with iOS
So if you’d picked differently when you started out you’d be fine with it?
Vertical integration doesn’t mean that other devices can’t play nicely with Apple devices or vise versa. The only reason they don’t is because Apple wants to be dicks.
You are correct. It’s the horizontal exclusion I dislike, not the vertical integration.
Integration with their other products. And I’m too old to enjoy fiddling with stuff anymore.
CaptainEffortThe first time I copied something on my phone and then seamlessly pasted it on my laptop, I was pretty blown away. The integration is a major perk.
But try copying from Apple to Windows
Why would I
If you already have window and you buy an apple product.
It was a nightmare getting music on and off an iPod using windows.
I always found it really easy with iTunes
…I still find it easy with iTunes as I’m still using my iPod 18 years later
ITunes on a mac I presume.
ITunes on a PC didn’t work well over networks.
Nope, on a PC.
Never tried it over a network though, I’ve always just plugged it in to the computer where the music collection is.
I had my mp3s on windows98 but ITunes only ran on XP so I had all sorts of problems.
Does android has this copy paste function on windows? (Never owned a android phone, serious question)
On android I can connect via USB and just drag the music onto the device.
I couldn’t do this when I had an iPod. I had to go through iTunes and that had to sync before I could do anything.
See that’s not what we’re talking about here. what’s cool in the apple ecosystem is I can copy something on my iPhone to the clipboard and then press cmd-v on my Mac to paste it (Or visa versa). It’s these little continuity things in the ecosystem apple haters don’t even know about I think. Another example, if I place my iPad next to my Mac I can push my mouse cursor of the screen onto the iPad, grab a file, drag it back to my Mac. Wirelessly.
Sounds cool, but not enough to get me to buy a macbook and iphone (I’m assuming it doesn’t work with android).
Oh no I get that, it’s definitely a nice-to-have not a must-have. And it’s those little things I personally am willing to pay a premium price for. It just negates the argument of “doesn’t work with windows, I don’t like apple”. No it doesn’t but then again android doesn’t do this either.
Apparently the described functionality is possible but not out of the box (nor probably securely).
How To Sync Clipboard Between Android and Windows
But the list goes on: www.apple.com/macos/continuity/ and you can probably do many of those things, but the smoothness and how it all just “magically” works I’ve never experienced on other OSes. But then again, is it worth the premium price? Probably not for most people. Also, you can’t miss something you never had. But if you ever experienced it, you will feel you are stepping down if you leave the ecosystem.
If the smoothness included my existing hardware then I would probably pay for the premium experience.
It works between android and any linux distro through kde connect. It let’s me do more than just clipboard sharing. e.g.: I could remote control my laser engraver through it.
But windows isn’t any Linux distro tho is it.
I wouldn’t use windows either
Fair enough
By the way, I am an apple hater because I tried apple after years of using Linux and it was a true mess. Here’s a story: I had to make an app building CICD pipeline and guess what? We had to run a macbook as a server because they fucking cannot share at least a VM for building. A CLI command brought up a GUI confirmation. How should I automate something that brings up a GUI. Garbage. Package management is horrible. Command line utilities was outdated. Case insensitive filesystem. Then Ruby…
And it’s not enough that they are shit, but they are actively holding back innovation. They held back PWAs for example. And they shit on open-source. They are the definition of vendor lock-in.
They look good though.
See that’s fair criticism and I understand where your frustration comes from. That indeed sounds like a oversight.
Can you copy and paste from Android to Windows? How about Android to ChromeOS?
Can you copy and paste from Android to Windows?
Yes. Plugged in as MTP has never given me a problem transferring mp3s. No need to rebuild databases. Just drag and drop.
How about Android to ChromeOS?
Never tried.
CaptainEffort and I were referring to the standard copy and paste feature on all OSs, but copying on one device and wirelessly pasting it on another. It’s a very convenient piece of continuity.
Although, what you’re talking about has worked since the release of the Files app in iOS 11, seven years ago. When you connect an iPhone to Windows, it appears as a drive now. You can drag and drop any files once you authenticate.
Yes. My experience was many years ago, but it was annoying enough to put me off trying to integrate Apple with other ecosystems.
That’s fair. Apple’s been shifting away from exclusively using proprietary protocols and connectors over the last decade. Most of their remaining proprietary use is in addition to industry standard protocols and connectors now. Adding RCS support in the fall is a long-awaited adoption. They were holding out in effort to leverage GSM to adopt an encrypted RCS standard, but it didn’t happen.
You’re misunderstanding them… They’re talking about clipboard sharing between iPhone and Mac. You select some text on your phone, copy it and then you can paste that text on your Mac.
They’re not talking about copying and pasting files.
Ah OK.
Does this feature work with my Android or will I need to buy an IPhone as well as a MacBook?
This does not work with android. They’re talking about the vertical integration of Apple products.
It even feels more like magic if you use the three-finger pinch to copy and paste.
Privacy, security, reliability, creative focused design, powerful hardware and software, great customer support, ease of use from GUI to Terminal (zsh and bash)
I like that I am their primary customer rather than advertisers as with Google.
I like that their desktop OS is a Unix variant unlike Microsoft’s (although this matters to me less and less over time).
I never really liked them growing up, but in recent years there have been some really good varieties popping up. Cosmic Crisp, Sugarbee, Kanzi.
Because they’re not Google.
I never really liked them growing up, but in recent years there have been some really good varieties popping up. Cosmic Crisp, Sugarbee, Kanzi.
TCB13Vertical integration (the ecosystem), decent UIs (that the GNOME guys are unable to get close to), higher level of security and privacy than most stock Android phones out there.
Android is great in theory but the amount of pre-installed garbage, material design and Google / vendor powered spyware is way too much for my liking. I’m not saying that Apple doesn’t track things, because they do, but at least there’s no vendor garbage and you can go through the Settings and disable everything you don’t need, restrict Apps from running in the background etc. If you don’t upload your data into iCloud it will be way more private than the average Android phone.
Another thing I dislike about non-Apple phones is that, besides the Pixel and a few others, their bootloader and storage security is a joke, if someone gets your device you can assume they’ll get to your data.
At the time, it was video editing. I went to film school & was a post production supervisor for 15 years in LA.
Having a laptop I could edit on & just knowing how to use Final Cut, gave me a major leg up starting my career.
I knew more about nonlinear editing than most of the post staff as a production assistant, because Avid made it too cost prohibitive for prosumers & students with their proprietary hardware.
Then Apple pooped out FCPX & gave Avid/Adobe the market back.
Still stuck with Apple though, just really fell into the environment & have been able to keep everything moving rather seamlessly.
zelifcamAudio/video ecosystem
Apple had wireless audio working by the late 2000s. The hardware still works today. Way ahead of everyone else. Hell those little Apple AirPort Expresses even had the ability to use digital or analog inputs on the same port. Playing audio throughout my house has been a non issue and something that has just always worked and couldn’t be found anywhere else at the time.
The appleTV was the first device to my knowledge to properly interface with the TV. It would adjust resolution and match framerate and give you a proper experience. Again, way ahead of the game and the only place to find the tech at the time. I still use ATVs today.
MeldrikThe iPhone Mini.
I love my iPhone 13 Mini. Only thing I’d change is swap the wide-angle for a telephoto. Otherwise, it’s perfect.
Well designed in every way
I left Apple when I got rid of my iPhone 3 and didn’t look back until last year. In the mean time, iOS has grown up nicely, the services are really well integrated, and it’s pretty low on bugs.
Contrast to Google where every OS update to Android makes the UI more and more similar to iOS, but a shittier version of it. Their home assistant has been losing features and the overall recognition has gotten demonstrably worse as time goes on. It annoys me to no end that Android doesn’t have any native ability to resize a photo before emailing it, so you either send a 7MB photo or go through too many ridiculous steps to resize it first. That’s not even counting the services that Google kills all the time, making any investment into their ecosystem unreliable in the long term.
I’m not using Apple now because I’m loyal and like them. It’s because Google has put so much effort into making their own phone a shitty knockoff. If I’m paying premium prices for a flagship phone, might as well go with the one that works better.