dave martinJun 12, 2024
I know, I know. #AI is bad. It's a reasonable position to take, honestly. But, as I write this, #copilot is building a file that I can import into my calendar app that includes the dates and times of summer soccer matches for my boys.
One of the banes of my existence as the home scheduler is making this happen. It takes a couple minutes to get the directions just so, and #chatgpt (3.5)
was unable to work it out, but #copilot seems to get it. so….
Show threadJames NenoJun 12, 2024

@Mountaineerdave

AI is not bad and that is not a reasonable position to take.

Show threaddave martinJun 12, 2024

@jneno From a creative person's point of view, AI is at best intellectual property thievery -- at the moment -- and at worst, death.
So, it's pretty f'in bad

The IT job I left almost 2 years ago must be completely different now in light of AI can and does do. I was in the business of doing a complicated version of what I just asked ChatGPT to do. It took hours and hours and often weeks to get the scheduling just so.
I suppose I could do it all in an hour's time now. I got out... just in time?

Show threadJames NenoJun 12, 2024

@Mountaineerdave
I think we have very different ideas on property rights.

Our economic system will not survive AI and that is a very good thing. Bring it on.

Show threaddave martin
@jneno
Is there somewhere you’re documenting your view of “property rights?” A future economic system?
If crypto comes up, then you can ignore me. I have zero patience for cryptocurrencies and their supporters.
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Show threadJames NenoJun 12, 2024

@Mountaineerdave

No. Don't have time for that but I don't think someone should have to draw pictures or slave for a corporation in order to eat or afford health care while most of the world's wealth is concentrated in a tiny fraction of the population. It's immoral and it needs to end. AI will force the issue as it replaces nearly all human labor.

Agree on crypto. That and NFTs are nonsense and I generally block anyone that has anything positive to say about either.

Show threadJames NenoJun 12, 2024

@Mountaineerdave

Looking at the big picture, competitive markets optimize for extracting resources from the planet.

Technology has been exponentially accelerating our ability to do this and we are destroying the planet in the process.

AI will put this into overdrive, and we will destroy ourselves if AI drives a system that optimizes for consumption.

Will we make it? I don't know.

Change is terrifying, but I contend AI isn't the problem, it is shining a light on the problem.

Show threaddave martinJun 14, 2024
@jneno Ok, so.
I agree with you on the morality of capitalism, for sure. But, it’s that immorality that drives the wrongful uses of AI. And as long as we're drawing pictures and writing words to feed ourselves, it's abhorrent to me that an LLM is going to come along and train on MY stuff and then continue to grow the corporation owning the AI (be it OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook). Disintegrating that ownership, without courts & probably weapons, isn't happening. Not in my lifetime.
Show threaddave martinJun 14, 2024

@jneno Which is not to say that AI in its current ownership model doesn’t have its uses. It certainly does. Your blog highlights a couple. But, till Terry, Dick, and Jane can login tomorrow and have their own LLMs and their own AIs to do their own things, that ownership model isn't helping them. And sure as shit won't help the planet.

Maybe I'm missing something. I'm for sure slow to the AI thing, of the belief till GPT4 that it was 90% (or more) hype.