This is a remarkable graph.

You might have heard that "EV sales are slumping", "people are starting to avoid EVs", etc.

That's not what's happening.

What's happening is "Tesla is cratering so hard that it's skewing the aggregate market data."

Or, put differently, "Tesla is failing harder than the entire rest of the market is succeeding, combined."

@mhoye People got it out of their system and realize that until battery capacity improves it's not worth the effort and the thousands of dollars it costs to install a decent charger in your garage.
@ShredderFeeder Speaking as somebody who did that, the number of thousands of dollars it costs to install a decent charger in your garage is "0.7" and it pays for itself in a few weeks.

@mhoye

1. My garage is on the opposite side of my house from my electrical panel.

2. My electrical panel is full.

3. Installing a car charger would involve upgrading the feed from the street to support the extra 50A circuit.

4. If you found a qualified, licensed electrician to do that job for $700 including the cost of the charger, please give me his name, because he's the cheapest electrician I've ever heard of.

@ShredderFeeder @mhoye Our panel is full too but we previously had a Nissan leaf and the charger that it came with just plugged into a regular plug. It only did slow charging but that worked for us
@CosmicTraveler @mhoye I had a friend buy one of those a few years back. I think he took it back after about two weeks and bought a Prius.
@ShredderFeeder @CosmicTraveler @mhoye
L2 charging is all you need at home. You have plenty of time to charge while parked. And it's better for the battery. Save fast charging for road trips.

@jannem @CosmicTraveler @mhoye When I do road trips I do straight through trips. (half of my annual mileage is my summer beach trip, and I usually do it in a single drive with a 10 minute gas break.

530 miles in about 6 hours. Can't do that in an electric.

@ShredderFeeder @jannem @CosmicTraveler @mhoye I just did a road trip from Galway to Copenhagen and back in an EV. It was very enjoyable. I did a 900km leg of it in 12 hours. This included a half hour detour on surface roads and about 1.5 hours for a ferry (half hour wait, one hour transit). I stopped three times to charge and get breakfast, lunch and dinner. For the latter two I had to rush to finish food because charging was faster.

@lyda @jannem @CosmicTraveler @mhoye I wonder what it would take to put EV chargers on the ferries. That would at least be a good use of time.

You should read some articles on lithium mining and it's impacts on the environment before you declare EV's "clean energy"

@lyda @jannem @CosmicTraveler @mhoye

Strip-mining is every bit as bad as oil at destroying the planet...

@ShredderFeeder @jannem @CosmicTraveler @mhoye a few things.

First, most lithium isn't strip mined.

Second, we "mined" 100,000 tons of lithium in 2023. We "mined" 5,000,000,000 tons of oil in 2023 (at least).

Third, batteries can (and are) recycled. It's likely that by the 2060s very little lithium will need to be mined.

Fourth, EVs are starting to come out with sodium batteries.

Lastly, charging on ferries isn't ideal until they use wind power (and regen from propellers).

@lyda @jannem @CosmicTraveler @mhoye Sodium batteries are a step in the right direction.. Chinese have been building them for a while now, but Americans like mining shit.

I'm just glad that I'll be long dead before my Mustang becomes illegal.

There's no replacement for displacement.

@lyda As of 2017, most lithium comes from australia, where it is in fact strip-mined. The brine-pools that it's extracted from in chile (now the #2 producer) does horrible things to an area's water table. Same goes for Sodium-ION batteries. Takes thousands of cubic hectares of water to generate a usable amount of salt.

There is NO element that can be extracted from the earth that doesn't damage it.

We need Cold-Fusion, Anti-Matter, or another produce-on-demand power-source before we stop destroying the planet... and the mass-production of both Cold Fusion (Production of heavy-water) and Matter/Anti-Matter reaction (production of anti-matter itself) are still decades off because we're wasting all of our focus on stupid batteries that are just as bad for the environment as the oil they replace.

@ShredderFeeder so again, 5,000,000,000 tons of oil extracted annually; 100,000 tons of lithium. The former isn't recycled. The latter is reused and recycled.