Russia to send combat vessels to Caribbean to project ‘global power’, US official says

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Russia to send combat vessels to Caribbean to project ‘global power’, US official says - Lemmy.World

Naval exercises spurred by US support for Ukraine are likely to include port calls in Cuba and Venezuela, says official Russia plans to send combat vessels into the Caribbean region this summer as part of naval exercises that will probably include port calls in Cuba and possibly stops in Venezuela, a senior US official said on Wednesday. “As part of Russia’s regular military exercises, we anticipate that this summer, Russia will conduct heightened naval and air activity near the United States. These actions will culminate in a global Russian naval exercise this fall,” the official said. The US does not see the move involving a relatively small number of vessels and planes as threatening, but the US Navy will monitor the exercises, the official told a small group of reporters.

Bold move to bring the rest of the Russian navy into striking distance of NATO defense forces during war with the signatories of the Budapest accords. Fucking idiot fell for his own bullshit.
Hopefully there will be no “accidents”, but this is good news for Ukraine. As Ukraine has been putting more effort into disrupting logistics far behind Russian lines, Russia is helping out by wasting supplies in a futile attempt to act tough.
Their boats aren’t there yet. Russia’s track record isn’t the best regarding boats making it to their destination…
What’s the over/under on the number of times members of the same fleet fire on each other this time?
Do you see any torpedo boats?

Eh. The Montreux Convention specifically prohibits them from being any military vessels into the Black Sea. That’s part of the Russian Navy’s problem right now: it is actually 100% against international law (as well as a very serious treaty violation made with a NATO country (Turkey)) for them to rotate and refresh their forces in the Black Sea.

That’s why their ship losses are so strategically catastrophic, and that’s why they haven’t replaced anything. If they want any new ships in the Black Sea fleet, they’ve got to build them in the Black Sea for the duration of the Ukraine War. Not to mention, it’s pretty fucking embarrassing to lose as many capital ships as they have to a country that doesn’t currently have a navy.

Also, I wouldn’t be super shocked if Ukrainians find some creative ways to disrupt, damage, or destroy Russia Navy vessels in various foreign ports of call :)

Why? So the USA can get a better look at their lack of naval capability? To intimidate… I don’t know… summer yachting enthusiasts?
Well you see we haven’t given Ukraine icbms yet, so as long as the ships are outside the Black Sea they are safe.
Safe from Ukraine maybe. I’m hoping for a pod of orcas to find them!
The orcas only attack small boats, unfortunately. TBH, all the “rooting for the orcas” is really misplaced. It’s not the 1% they’re hitting.
They are expecting a very active hurricane season this year, they might manage to lose a ship or two

Ukraine Special Forces:

Get your swim trunks and sun tan lotion, lads! We going to the Caribbean for a couple of weeks!

This the same navy that couldn’t keep their boats afloat in Crimea? Oooh, very intimidating!
They’re just trying to get as far away as possible from the Ukrainians.
Wait, this may actually not even be a joke considering how much of their fleet they have been losing.

Bringing the ships into waters completely monitored by countries friendly to Ukraine, and surrounded by a number of launching points for sabotage actions by basically anyone.

It would be a risky move if anybody cared about their navy, or felt it was a threat.

Cuban Missile Crisis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

Soviet Union: Strength: 43,000 soldiers

I guess if Putin’s got 43k soldiers lying around.

Cuban Missile Crisis - Wikipedia

If not, he’ll just draft the women and children, too.
Blyats spreading themselves thin.
Didn’t Ukraine get invaded during other such drills? Wasn’t it a ‘special military operation’ near the border?

Who are they going to invade? Cuba or Venezuela? There’s no point in that, they are already at least loosely allied with Russia.

They certainly won’t be invading the United States, they’d be destroyed before they could get within 10 miles of shore.

Russia is going to run a few ships around in order look tough. That’s pretty much it.

No, I don’t think you understand, sorry. They might actually if we don’t watch carefully, who is to say?

This is implying that they have regional power? They can barely hold onto Crimea now The Ukraine is off the leash and allowed to be more proactive in its defensive strategies.

What ships are they going to send? The one’s that haven’t already been sunk by cheap off the shelf drones?

It’s just Ukraine. “The Ukraine” makes it sound like a province. Ukraine makes it sound like a country. You don’t say “the France, the Germany” etc.
The United kingdom of great Britain and ireland, there are always exceptions
*Northern Ireland. Most of Ireland is still free.
At the rate the UK is going it won’t be long before there is no northern Ireland, and just Ireland

I always learned that it was the other way around, for precisely the same reason; Ukraine while it was a part of the Soviet Union. THE Ukraine after 1991.

But I’m happy to be corrected. Thanks.

I thought it was the other other way around. Then:

The Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic.

And now just:

Ukraine

Yeah. From doing some research after being corrected I confirmed that I was wrong. Adjusting my world view accordingly. Lol.

Sir, this is the internet.

You’re supposed to double down and start making personal attacks.

My apologies. I’ll do better next time.

The Gambia

The Netherlands

The United Kingdom

“the Gambia” is literally their name, the Netherlands is plural and the United Kingdom is a collection of countries / provinces, just like the United States

the Gambia" is literally their name

Well one out of three at least.

Well, the navy has nothing to do outside the black sea and since they lost some crews there they need to start training.

I just wonder what else they will be doing there. Cause Putin just declared he will start arming groups that fight NATO countries. So in the carribean you can arm drug cartels, contras and other insurgency groups and the US will need to deal with that. As it is a direct danger and it causes more instability, thus refugees to the US. Just in time for the elections in November.

Also having a group of ships sail out also allows you to break some off to do other stuff and equip other groups. Rendezvous at sea and all.

Just in time for hurricane season. Supposed to be a doozy this year. Will anyone rescue their poor sailors when the inevitable happens? Will we see an entire ship defect?
Remember when “a bad storm” sank Moskva. Good times.
Fun fact: The Russian Revolution of 1917 went underway when the Russian Navy joined in. I believe it happened just after Bloody Sunday, but I can’t find it now. Anyone here remember what the catalyst was for the Russian Navy on some island to join the Russian Revolution?
Lol Russia sending the equivalent of a dingy to sink in an intimidating manner.
Europe confiscated their yachts so now oligarchs are using military ships to go on holidays?
Good! A failed attempt to show off while weakening their forces in Ukraine
They can’t send warships from the Black Sea to the Carribbean. No warships are allowed passage through the Bosphorus Strait.
But that is Turkey forbidding it correct ? They can change their mind if the wind blows east-south east of any other direction than up really
Bruh watch as multiple ships break down and some sink due to Russian incompetence.
Weclome back Second Pacific Squadon. Think Japan will accept an invite by the US to run some exercises around Puerto Rico?
They are just trying to hide them from the Ukrainians.
Yes, delay the submarine metamorphosis.
How funny would it be if Ukraine still sunk one
It’s not out of the realm of possibility. They’ve been fucking Russia up in Syria as well.
Same with Sudan, who provides arms to Ukraine. So they sent special forces, DURING their own war, to aide the Sudanese govt against Wagner led rebels to retake one of their largest cities. Been fucking up unprepared Russian mercs there with drones left and right.

Project global power

Hope they have aquatic cope cages to protect them

It’s always projection with them.

I’m gonna be honest here, is there even any naval force besides the USN that could claim the ability to project power?

Russia’s carrier repeatedly caught fire India left the door open on their brand new submarine UK flopped a missile into the ocean China pretends the SCS is the same size as the Pacific, and also allegedly had multiple nuclear sub accidents, which they cover up.

I was gonna make fun of the French but then I remembered their nuclear doctrine is to lob a 250kt yield warhead as a warning shot.
The UK and France have both joined the US navy in a few actions (Though of the two neither can really project carriers) Chinas navy is technically large but most of it is coastal waters only, That said they’ve conducted exercises around Taiwan so they can at least project some power.
Australia and France. That’s about it.