TheDudeV2TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS
Can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. Get fucked you piece of shit
I have doubts he will do any time.
I can dream. I guess there’s some consolation to his mind slowly becoming his prison. If anyone deserves dementia, it’s this traitor
Asshole kept comparing himself to Capone…
Let’s give him what he wants!
Sentence his ass to 11 years & a roaring case of neurosyphilis.
BoozillaI kinda think he may already have neurosyphilis. Didn’t he have weird sores on his hands? Whatever it is, there’s definitely something wrong with that pile of turds and KFC bones he calls a brain.
Double the neurosyphilis! Or maybe just double syphilis & give him a different kind of syphilis too.
Double your pleasure
Double your fun
It’s the right one
Give double-syphillis. Done.
There has been something wrong with his brain for years. But yeah, I think it may be getting worse. I hope he is suffering and miserable.
Each count has a maximum of 1 - 4 years of prison apparently. Usually that is served concurrently, but he is technically a first time felon so I doubt he is going to do any time at all.
What about the neurosyphilis? Can we still give him neurosyphilis?
Have to have the “neuro” part, first.
Does neurosyphilis become regular syphilis if there’s no neuro to syphil? Cause I’d be alright with that!
Haha, or dementia. I don’t wish that suffering on anyone, id rather he just shut his mouth and stop being a hateful shit.
The judge has all the leeway in this case. Since these crimes were committed to influence an election and undermine democracy, the judge can make him go to prison for the 4 years.
Another factor in sentencing is remorse - Trump has never said he’s genuinely sorry for anything. If the judge isn’t convinced that this is a one time thing (which is tough since it’s 34 charges involving multiple events with multiple accomplices), prison is more likely.
Absolutely fair. I am just shitting out what other pundits have said. We really won’t know what happens until July 11th.
With the logistics of imprisoning a past president, and the “kid gloves” the justice system has been using on trump, I see 1 year of house arrest as the most likely outcome, plus some fines.
That’s after the next 8 years of appeals…
I understand the kid gloves angle, since, you know… 10 gag order violations and all he gets is a fine. But I don’t really understand what’s so logistically complicated about imprisoning Trump? The warden at Rikers says they already have a plan in place for VIPs. They will put him in the isolation wing where he will have no cellmate and no interaction with the general prison population, and the Secret Service presumably have come up with a plan by now to protect the dumb fuck from himself while he’s on ice. Or better yet, congress can do their jobs for a change and just pass a law to strip former presidents of their secret service retinue if they are sent to prison and the problem will be solved without forcing Americans who are just doing their jobs from having to be punished alongside Trump.
It’s… 4 years maximum.
4 years maximum.
Which is not typically given to people convicted of this sort of crime, especially on their first conviction.
Something tells me the latter has already occurred.
Those spirochetes are leaving hole like a cork screw in his brain.
khannieI happened to be in my mother’s house when she called me to look at it and there was zero mention on CNN of whether or not he would serve time over it. Sentencing in July.
Anyone know likelihood of jail time?
I’m not counting on jail time (though I can dream!). Just parroting an oft used law and order catchphrase
SanguineParSlim chance. It’s his first offence (first conviction anyway) and a non violent crime. Can’t see the judge jailing him, especially given the logistics involved with the Secret Service having to protect him.
Cohen served time for this exact same crime in the exact same state. I think he was sentenced to 3 years and did 1.5 due to covid early release. That was also his first felony.
It’s fully possible he gets jail time.
I need this. I didn’t know how much I needed this until now.
No you don’t. It literally does not affect you.
Skullgridthis actually affects the entire world. We all have our knockoff trumps, and this needs to show them and our countries that there will be consequences for them.
At least, there’s the likelyhood of it. Bolsonaro didn’t get prison time, but at least he got barred from politics and his passport revoked. Hopefully similar things happen to Fidesz & Orban, Milei and various others.
this actually affects the entire world.
Yeah I’m sitting there the far side of the Atlantic and I can say with absolute certainty that this affects me. For the better like.
My mother called me in to watch it live on TV. Pure chance that I was in her house. I never watch live TV. We both said that we were watching history. I’ve seen history live a few times in my life and realised it. Last time I really felt that was when I watched the 2nd plane hit the tower while on holiday in Amsterdam. Obviously that was a bigger event but you get the picture.
So yeah. It affects us.
ֆᎮ⊰◜◟⋎◞◝⊱ֆᎮSitting here just north of and it absolutely affects us here as well.
Women in Texas have literally seen their rights to their own body stripped away by state level politicians supported by the 5th circuit and further bolstered by SCOTUS.
It quite literally does, affect me.
Oh, I didn’t know that. Fingers crossed then!
Given Trump’s age though, I just don’t think it’s likely - much as I would love to see him behind bars.
Stop saying Cohen got convicted for the exact same crime! It’s misinformation. They both got a completely different set of counts.
MontaggeMaybe convicted ex presidents shouldn’t get secret service protection
TheShadow277I get what you’re saying, but I think without that protection it’s pretty likely he’d be killed in prison.
ChaoticNeutralCzechNot in solitary confinement (unless he’s on suicide watch ofc)
It’s not like they’re going to put him with the general population. And USSS agents don’t sign up to be in prison.
Ah that’s probably true. He’s rich and white enough to end up in a resort prison, I’m sure.
IIRC, probably the Secret Service will enter a memorandum of understanding with the New York Department of Corrections, and negotiate who and what goes where. Probably means Trump will get a wing of Rikers to himself.
Don’t worry, I have full confidence in the Secret Service’s ability to keep Trump perfectly safe while he’s making license plates!
Don’t worry, I have full confidence in the Secret Service’s ability to keep Trump perfectly safe while he’s making license plates!
or you know, not. doesn’t really matter.
dezmdThey have protective custody for certain inmates that require protection, for example, Epstein.
I dunno. Epstein was pretty high profile, but a former president is really high profile. I have no idea how they would handle it, but if we’re lucky enough to see it, it’ll be quite interesting for sure
I’m not seeing the downside.
MinnesotaGoddamTrue, but he wasn’t sentenced to death. We owe all prisoners the same protections.
So you support leaking the country’s biggest secrets just because he did bad thing?
irreticentHe leaked the country’s biggest secrets when he gave classified documents to foreign adversaries. Stop trying to pretend that’s what you’re actually worried about. You’re always defending Trump. You’re just worried about his well being, not our country.
I knew this was coming.
He leaked
I was more referring to one of the general reasons that the Secret Service stays with ALL presidents forever.
You’re always defending Trump
Um, this is literally the first time I have ever commented about the man in my entire life.
He already sold them.
My understanding is that we will see an appeal before sentencing on July 11th. If that is not successful, then he will get anything from a slap on the wrist to jail time. Sentencing is likely going to hinge on if he remains the lead Republican candidate. Jail time is going to have a lot of custom rules and exeptions that we are unprepared for; primarily secret secret protection.
cbc.ca/…/trump-jury-deliberations-watch-1.7218775 convection section
ANALYSIS | Here are 3 potential outcomes of the Trump jury deliberations | CBC News
A momentous event in American politics now rests on 12 jurors, the Manhattanites deciding the case of Donald Trump. As they enter their second day of deliberating whether a former U.S. president will also become a convicted felon, here is a rundown on three potential outcomes.
Sentencing is likely going to hinge on if he remains the lead Republican candidate
AFAIK no one is left
snooggumsSentencing is likely going to hinge on if he remains the lead Republican candidate.
While you are probably right, that is fucking stupid.
I mean, SS protection should be pretty easy if he’s locked in an 8x10 cell.
John RichardYeah, give them access to prison video feeds. I am not sure there are strict requirements on what SS protection includes. Heck, give him his own private cell too… putting an inmate in the same cell as him would be cruel and unusual punishment to make someone else smell and listen to his shit all day.
He has 30 days to appeal… but would you really want to use the same attorneys to appeal that just got you convicted?
TropicalDingdongCohen got jail time for this crime.
100%, how is this not more significant when people guess whether or not Trump will serve time? Cohen got jail time for this, and he turned himself in, and cooperated.
Trump did nothing redeeming, and he was the guy giving the orders, how is it even conceivable that Trump should be punished less?
Cohen doesn’t have a cult of dimwits willing to betray every value they claim to have in order to vote for him, tho.
And a stacked supreme court in his favor
I hope the Supreme Court tries to test their limits here… they’ll find out quickly if state, district and appeal courts will ever consider anything they have to say again… which they don’t have to.
This needs to be brought up every damned time this subject comes up. Cohen served time for the exact same crime - so what argument is there that Trump shouldn’t?
Cohen didn’t need a secret service detail.
The Guardian are reporting it is unlikely he will see jail time