Yes and no. They should really separate the fancy stuff from the base stuff. Like have a kwin-wayland-base and kwin-wayland-extras.
I guess some other features are not easy to rip out, but having only simple animations etc would really make sense.
I will try Plasma 6 on an Intel core Duo in some time though, exited.
They have an issue with disabling not needed stuff. XWaylandVideoBridge, legacy app tray support, GTK global menu adapter, and other cool but edge case stuff is just always running in the background.
Same for accessibility, GUI keyboard and Orca, even though they will be somehow dynamically loaded, they are not controllable transparently by the user.
I will try Plasma 6 on an Intel core Duo in some time though, exited.
Eh, I used it on an HP Pavilion DV2000 (3 GB RAM). With Gentoo. It worked just fine.
Gnome 3, on the other hand...
KDE has a really nice suite of applications and utilities. No other desktop environment really compares on that level (and Amarok is back!).
XFCE &etc are also good if you are running lightweight hardware (not just old hardware) but still want a desktop environment.
CLI is best for servers and remotely managed/headless systems.
and Amarok is back
Was Amarok gone?
I used to use it maybe 16-17 years ago even though I used GNOME rather than KDE. It was the best music player Iโd found on Linux.
Iโm finally switching back to Linux so Iโll have to try it out again! These days I usually use Plexamp though.
Development was dead for years, so dead that it wasnโt included in new release repositories
Clementine was a fork that was pretty good, but I think had more ambitions than active developers.
Strawberry later forked from Clementine and is still being developed, and theyโre doing well, but they arenโt building on the KDE framework.
Do you know if Elisa is related?
Crazy that we can use 3 forks alongside each other, feels wrong.
KDE has crazy complex apps like Krita, digiKam, KDEnlive, Kate, Konqueror, etc etc.
They went more minimal and dedicated over time
Amarok -> Elisa, Kasts
Konqueror -> Dolphin, Falkon/โjust use Firefoxโ
I dont get why we have Gwenview, Kolourpaint, Spectacle edit and digiKam though, this feels absurd
I just installed Fedora KDE for the first time from gnome and goddamn all these fucking Ks lmao! Gotta say though I didnโt like elisa, installed Clementine almost immediately. I definitely donโt need all these apps but I have to figure out what they all do before I go removing them willy nilly.
And it refused to update my default browser to Librewolf so I had to uninstall Firefox to force it.
And NetworkManager wouldnโt work with the official fedora recommendation of how to randomize mac addresses, no clue why, it worked on gnome.
Other than that it is neat, though.
Yeah Fedora KDE is very bloated.
But no, changing the default browser under โdefault appsโ in the settings works very reliable.
NetworkManager should default to randomized MAC since F40.
Have a look at my debloat guide
I just upgraded a laptop with traditional Fedora from F39 to F40. Lets sayโฆ atomic distro upgrades work worlds easier, one run, done. This took a few reboots and strange repititions. Fedora KDE (unlike Kinoite) comes equipped with a ton of KDE apps so I debloated as many of them as possible. Future apps will be mostly installed as Flataks. This speeds up upgrades and reduces the chance for breakages. sudo dnf remove kontact akregator kaddressbook dragon contactthemeeditor elisa kmag kmail kmo...
Nope, tried that, and still SABnzbd opened up in Firefox until I ran sudo dnf remove firefox. No clue why.
As for the randomized mac, OHHHHH thanks! Thatโs probably why when I put that config file there it was confused! I was unaware of this change, thanks again!
And thanks, Iโll definitely check out your debloat guide, but Iโm still going to have to do some learning and decide for myself because weโll be different. For instance Iโm probably keeping kGpg unless I replace it with Kleopatra (ironically also a K haha). Iโll definitely use it as a start point though!
What is a SABnzbd ?
the MAC is randomized but static, so you are somebody else for every network, but then stay the same.
Full MAC randomization causes major breakages though, and should be avoided.
The default hostname is also really unprivate, change it to PC with sudo hostnamectl set-hostname PC.
Just Usenet shit. The important part is when you run the program it opens up your default web browser, which in my case was perpetually firefox and idk why.
Iโve had mac rando on on fedora in the past and am running Graphene with it on by default, no breakages so far in about 2-2.5yr. Maybe my usecase doesnโt need static MACs. The only issue is my home wifi says โa new device has been connectedโ every time I connect, but like, thatโs fine.
Good point on the hostname though, I usually use a specific name per device for my own sanity but maybe I should make them all generic โPC.โ
xdg-open will open the default browser. This is likely an issue with that app having firefox hardcoded, or detecting it and using it when detected or some stuff.
Iโve had mac rando on on fedora in the past and am running Graphene with it on by default, no breakages so far in about 2-2.5yr
People that dont have problems dont have a lot to add in terms or arguments :D
There are 2 types of MAC rando, and GrapheneOS uses full per-connection rando by default.
If you are in networks where access is controlled via the MAC, this will break. Static randomized (in grapheneOS โper networkโ) like on Fedora dont have this issue at all, this should really be default always.
But it does not protect against certain levels of tracking.
Also randomized MACs may fill up certain router softwares and cause DHCP to fail because it tries to remember every connected device โfor securityโ (FritzBox in my case).
Thing is though, it exhibited the desired behavior on Fedora 39 Gnome, if it was just how SABnzbd rolled Iโd expect it to do it back then too, but since itโs new behavior I suspect itโs something else.
Yeah it does clog up the router a bit but I think in my case they auto-clean the older ones out.
There is a new Qt app called Vvave, a tiny music player.
I also dont like Elisa, I personally use G4Music but also tried Strawberry.
There also is Qmmp, which is still developed and also pretty minimal
Installing the extension itself? Thatโs easy.
Finding all the extensions you need, actively maintained and quickly updated? Yeah, thatโs really difficult, depending on your needs.
I tried LXQt and damn that is ugly. Maybe with theming?
LXQt 6.1 will have wayland support and as compositor you can use sway, hyprland, river, niri, labwc, dwl, โฆ
What are the icons for?
I know gnome, and the 3 that have their name in the logo (xfce, sway, tty).
Iโm going back to Slackware. Canโt keep up with this shit any more.
I had to leave Slackware when I got kids. Kubuntu took less time (for me) to get the usual stuff working on.
Kids got older, and Kubuntu was getting annoying, but I didnโt make it back to Slackware because nowโฆ I use Arch, btw.
LXQt: continuation of LXDE with Qt
Hyprland: tiling/floating wayland-only window manager
Sway: same but slower and not controversial
Wayfire: floating/stacking window manager, used in RasperryPiOS
Alacritty: a terminal, in Rust, that lacks all the stuff that Desktop Terminals have, but it is aaaaaacccellerated
It just depends on the complexity or specific area an extension touches. The shell is continually changing somewhere.
Last version was a big deal for JavaScript itself changing, so all extensions needed some simple updates.
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