Patricia AasMay 23, 2024

Ok, I’m sorry, I’m going to ruffle feathers here but… I’m trying to read some newer development process books and… oh my… even super popular ones are so immensely long winded and unconvincing in their dogmatic argumentation: this is bad, this is good, because I said so that’s why.

Recent examples that I’m struggling to finish: “Team Topologies” and “Data Mesh” - I mean they might be great but I’m getting strong “this should’ve been a blogpost” feels.

Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
The worst part of Agile and Lean etc has been the wave of folks earning their living telling you confidently how to build while they themselves have barely ever shipped anything.
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
I mean… get that money I guess… but it sucks to be continuously refactored *cough* reorged because someone who can’t build read the executive summary of a book by someone who can’t build.
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
Jeez this was hash, Patricia. Eat your dinner.
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
I’m dying. “If people are talking with each other of their own accord that’s a bad sign because…” I don’t even know.
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
Dear lord are they reinventing silos but with fancy words?
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
I ate. And it didn’t help.
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
“Monolith bad!” “Micro services good!” “People talking bad! People talking is basically a MONOLITH 👻”
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
I think maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to read.
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
Seriously so far the good parts of Team Topologies are the parts they have taken from other peoples work.
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
I suddenly remembered the Agile Coach I pissed off a few years ago that angrily told me he had actually been a dev for two years fifteen years ago!
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
Omg these people are ridiculously condescending
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
Help. Why do folks love this book?
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
Please. It is a mashup of 10 other pieces of original work.
Show threadGryMay 23, 2024
@Patricia I'm utterly confused about that myself. I think the book is terrible, but many love it
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
@grymt thank goodness it’s not just me
Show threadGryMay 23, 2024
@Patricia Have you seen the presentations and so on? It's the most confusing thing ever and the prices for talks and workshops are crazy
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
@grymt I need links. I need to see these talks. They cannot possibly worse than this…. Right???
Show threadGry

@Patricia not sure what's worse, but it's useful to have a look so you know when someone have been too inspired

https://teamtopologies.com/talks

Talks — Team Topologies

Learn about Team Topologies from public or private talks

Team Topologies
May 23, 2024 at 6:14pmWeb
Show threadPatricia AasMay 23, 2024
@grymt thank you!