Paying for advertising - sh.itjust.works

But how can you show them that you bought an overpriced shirt made by a child in Bangladesh?
The problem is it’s hard to hold people accountable for their actions because the liberal court system doesn’t allow for it. As a fellow sigma, I don’t let anyone walk all over me anymore, learned that the hard way after my wife cheated on me and took the kids. I once bought a shirt from Facebook marketplace and it had a rip in it, I sued the seller for 10 million USD in damages, didn’t win the court case. When I tried to get the money back he refused to give me it in Monero. This country is screwed.

Screenprint the notice right on the shirt: this shirt supports Bangladeshi child welfare

Kinda makes everyone else jerks if they’re buying clothes from makers who could afford their next meal regardless.

ironically technically not true

one principle of marketing is the knowledge that the brand actually adds (perceived) value for many consumers, and so they are willing to pay more

It’s true that this is how most consumers act. It’s dumb, but iirc it’s factually correct.

If you take a brand name shirt, remove the logo in a way that is visually perfect, and sell them side-by-side, then the logo shirt will outsell the non-logo shirt. Or so I’ve heard.

Absolutely. There are definitely people like OP who prefer products without branding, but for the majority (average) of consumers in many markets, the branding actually adds value.

“SuPrEmE” somehow did this and created a rabid following over some of the most basic stuff I’ve ever seen. It’s a meme now to just stick their logo on like, a literal brick so it’s suddenly more “desirable.”

Truly boggles the mind.

That is an extreme example of this, yes. Other examples of branding can be much more subtle and deft, e.g. Apple’s product design. It’s not in-your-face but nevertheless it’s present and adds to the consumer experience and perception of value.
The irony is that this is often true. I have always preferred shirts that have minimal advertising on them (preferably none, but a dime sized insignia is generally the best you get) but they are notably harder to find and when you do, they are more expensive. The happy medium I have found is looking for used Polo type shirts that were expensive when new, which I can generally find cheaply because collars aren’t a popular look these days.
You mean blank t-shirts? Because blank t-shirts are usually a lot cheaper than ones with a logo, and most other kinds of shirts I don’t usually see logos on them but maybe we shop in different places. For t-shirts I used to get them from a screen printing vendor because I liked ha ING multiple different colored shirts and they were usually around like 2-3 dollars per shirt depending on the brand
Not bad, but I was mostly referring to brand names, generally with better fabric than just blank t shirts. I have plenty of those shirts that have Pima or other expensive fabrics that I paid $5-20 for a piece used. They are a lot more comfortable, and generally last longer.
Browse the REI catalog. Vouri t-shirt, tiny label, $60. Free Fly t-shirt, no label that I can see, $55.
You’re paying for an ad-free experience with no logo. You could always make your own ad-blocked and cover up the logo on scrape it off if you want the cheaper one with no ads.

Am I doing this right?

I would very unironically buy this shirt, hard!
All the shirts I have with logos I got for free, usually from work. Except for my NASA t shirt. I'll wear their logo for free.
“The Century of the Self” in a nutshell. 😬

Yeah, that’s why I won’t wear stuff like that

Now, there’s the adjacent, but not the same thing of band shirts or similar merchandise. The difference is that in theory, the band/artist is going to benefit from the purchase. It is still advertising that I’m paying for, but, because merchandise is often a big income stream for musicians in particular, I don’t object to being their billboard if I like them enough to get anything of theirs in the first place.

When it’s a clothing company? Hell no. If their label/logo is more than the size of a tag, I’m not doing it. I don’t mind the idea of a trademark/label/tag being present, that’s expected. It’s when the branding becomes the design that it’s a problem.

Yeah I’m fond of the “Tshirts that make a statement” thing.

It’s personal expression to say “Hey I’m really into this band and I might’ve gone to this concert!” Could be a conversation starter too, and it supports the band or artist like you said!

But I really don’t understand people walking around with some billboard from a clothing mega-brand. You’re literally paying them to do marketing work for them lol.

‘Do I get a discount if I take your free gym bag with the name of your gym’. Response is always no and a very weird stare

Also grocery bags. I pay for them, don’t want you logo on it

It’s damn near impossible to find bags without some greedy shit grocery companies trashy branding all over it. I still use plastic bags. Got a million of them in the weird plastic tub thing that everyone has a million of them in.

People look when I pull out some 15 year old plastic bag is amazing.

Also grocery bags. I pay for them, don’t want you logo on it

One alcohol bewerage chain in Russia popularized the blank black bag format in recent years, in theory - to make it less obvious you’ve bought booze. They are sturdy, have good handles, so overall it’s a win. But since they are the most popular source of them, a blank black bag therefore automatically means booze.

Yeah but it’s a tight balancing act between selling at a higher volume vs selling at a higher price.

And that is why, with our new triangle shaped business model, you and your customers are getting paid for wearing our shirts!

That’s right! The more shirts you buy, the more you are getting paid! Just grap a couple of friends and get rich together!

It’s not a pyramid scheme when it’s 2D

Trick yourself out until you look like a NASCAR

I want a divorce

Because you look like a horse.

Wait… Is that 2020s really what it looks like now?!
I have several polo Ralph Lauren clothing items in my home, the logo hasn’t changed significantly in 30+ years in shape or size on the normal polos. They do have some items that have the polo logo or the teddy bear larger but those are in the main Ralph Lauren line for fashion, not the Polo line polo shirts that are a business casual intent
Wow how has that guy been able to look the same during all those years

I can dig the 2040’s.

But of an un branded vibe to it too.

I wish this was a thing… All the shirts I’ve gotten in the last few years have been $40-50 and have the brand’s logo on the back near the neckline (they also came with stickers that are advertising the brand). I would usually only spend $5-10 for a shirt, but these are limited prints and most of them are on really good, comfortable shirts. Just look how cool my newest one is:

If I drop fifty bucks on a t-shirt it better come with a bag of weed.
Initially that was the only way you could buy weed in Maine from a delivery service before they allowed recreational dispensaries. $50 T-shirt with a free bag of weed.
Lol ‘limited’ my ass
They don’t usually print more once they sell out of the initial stock. Hell, Hyena Agenda and Nomad Complex just stopped existing entirely. 😮‍💨
You paid money for that shirt?
Sir, I think there is some t-shirt in your hair
I have two dogs and one is very cuddly. Those are my black shirts within 30 seconds of putting them on. And most of my shirts are black.
I always make car dealers take their own sticker or badge off of my vehicles. I usually offer to keep the advertising in place, in exchange for a discount, but they never take me up on it.
I make removal of any dealership branding a condition of purchase.
Hell yeah, brandalism is already too pervasive and just kind of accepted. Good on you.

Funny to see this, because I haven’t bought a vehicle in a long time, but I had the EXACT same thought.

I grimace every time I see that hideous “CarMax - - -” decal stuck to the actual car body.

Same with license plate frames that are like “Huge ‘Dicky’ Richard’s Auto Circus Emporium Honda Jeep Lexus - We rub you right!

At least those just tell me “the driver is likely lazy or can’t identify a screwdriver.” But an actual decal? Yeah they better take it off, and discount me if they scratch it in the process. :p

Obnoxious, man.

At least they aren’t riveting badges onto cars anymore I’ve heard that used to be super common during the 60s and 70s

Woah that’s particularly egregious! I’m sure it seems like way more trouble than it’s worth, but nowadays maybe it wouldn’t be so hard to replace it with something cool. :)

Like a metal 3D printed badge of some sort or something creative.

I’m sure glad they don’t do that anymore though. The entitlement of forcing customers to be zombie advertisers is so disgusting.

Absolutely. I always shake my head when I get behind a sharp looking vehicle and it’s ruined by a dealer sticker.
Tbh I feel like this is sometimes the case. Whenever I’ve looked for really cheap basic one-color t-shirts, the lowest cost ones usually have a brand logo on them.
This is true to a point. Once you go past brands Ralph Lauren, Gucci, or Versace to the “real” expensive brands, they become understated again. For example, this $555 blue T-shirt
For that price, a tailor better come to my home, get my exact measurements, and make it specifically for me from high quality materials.

When shirts are worn less than a dozen times on average before they get tossed in the landfill, those branded shirt companies should be paying you.

Convenient video from today about this exact topic.

Fast Fashion Is Ruining Merch | Climate Town

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With very few exceptions, I will wear a shirt until it’s just not wearable anymore. If the image is really faded, I don’t care much.

The only exceptions right now are two shirts I still have from my previous job that I hated. I’m mostly keeping them around in case my wife wants them for some sort of craft project.

that’s why I don’t like buying t-shirt with brand logos on, I feel like companies are using me as means to reach out to new customers

I admit I buy T-shirts at micro-breweries. I do support those that I actually buy. Additionally, it helps me keep record of my journey of visiting many breweries.

I’ve even turned some of my collection into a king sized quilt and a lap quilt. So, my shirts are very useful in more ways than one.

I think it’s different when you’re talking about a small business or a nonprofit or a museum. Paying $20 to advertise things that actually make the world a better place that people wouldn’t otherwise know about is, in my opinion, a net good.