Joanna Bryson, blatheringTo govern or to be governed? #CAIDP is at #cpdp2024 and as a dyslexic I’m super confused. But I’m speaking tomorrow at 11:50am on the @article19 panel. I already saw these awards online and spoke then, in early April.
Scorza gives another great acceptance speech, but since I only have my phone, please read my previous account of his previous speech https://mastodon.social/@j2bryson/112213190974700356 #cpdp2024 #CAIDP
The academic prize went to something my coauthor Meeri Haataja and I campaigned hard against, shoe-horning #fundamentalRights into the #AIAct. We thought making FR special to AI was a mistake, FR underlies ALL EU regulation, acting like it doesn’t undermines FR elsewhere in our law, and also motivates people trying to get exemptions from the AIA due to the heavy costs. Their speech implies those who opposed them were corporate sponsored. :-/
@edri gets the next award, this I’m fully behind, for their #ReclaimYourFace campaign. Also a nice memorial to Ross Anderson. #AIEthics #AIAct #biometrics
“People cannot be treated as walking barcodes.”
#cpdp2024 #CAIDP “we couldn’t give this award without this year without one for @bertuzluca “ so they gave him formally the business award, but really it’s for OUTSTANDING service to the community. Speech: “I learnt that lawmaking is not a private affair.” The trialog process is the main problem for EU #accountability/ #transparency. Decisions being announced on twitter not official channels. Now a journalist is an actor—a vector of public concern. #journalism #AIEthics
I can’t believe @bertuzluca didn’t get a standing ovation! But this is a privacy crowd, and people were more excited about the titanic success of @edri & #ReclaimYourFace
WOW, they have the guy who worked with @Katecrawford on the amazing #poeticsofencryption exhibition I’ve been raving about!
Vladan Joler, here’s his work https://extractivism.online/
Here’s me raving about the exhibition which ends this weekend, in Berlin!
https://mastodon.social/@j2bryson/112418641196355289 and https://mastodon.social/@j2bryson/111941337556164340
“This is from 2014, before algorithmic transparency was even a thing.” I’ll tell him about the 2011 #PrinciplesOfRobotics at the reception — after raving about how much I love his work.
It takes two years to do this art, he mines patents &c., the systems he is documenting changes by the day. His maps have been misused to say transparency is impossible! But he believes these “maps” are useful. (I love them!!!)
#cpdp2024 #CAIDP Joler used to only worry about #privacy, but these works brought him into understanding earths, inequalities. “Supply chains are also black boxes.” It’s about labour, nature, AND data centres. A computer and modem were all you needed for the previous revolution, but this one is built on $billions. He’s now explicitly critiquing #AIEthics for not considering more of the locations on his map. Thus new project…
Joler is now showing a piece I took a picture of last week to look up :-) #cpdp2024 #CAIDP #privacy #AIEthics
Thanks to @mraven whom I took to the exhibition last week for Signaling me Joler’s name & url.
Joler finishes up talking about his big piece #poeticsofencryption with @Katecrawford. Now there’s an hour long panel! THEN the reception …
“To govern or to be governed” takes on a different feel when you see the coffee room dominated by tiktok, google and EY. We’re back …
Contra the opening talk, it’s 11 minutes for a fit cyclist to get between buildings AND THEN UPSTAIRS! #cpdp2024
#cpdp2024 https://www.cpdpconferences.org/cpdp-panels/ai-and-the-brain-toward-an-eu-approach-to-governing-neurotechnology Al and the Neurotechnologyn EU Approach to Governing Neurotechnology
Pros & cons? Incredible enrichment, hopefully non invasive, but dystopian nightmare of surveillance, and also very likely to increase inequalities.
There was massive work done e.g. in the context of the human brain project, computational modelling etc. was essential to device design, but now people can recover the ability to walk in just 24 hours. (I think this is Parkinson’s?)
Moderator Raegan MacDonald says she's seen the patents fot the forthcoming airpods, there are like 3 or 4 new sensors for brain activity etc. Great. #privacy #cpdp2024
Arleen Salles: what if you employer require you to wear a headset to improve concentration? The mix with AI, how much of yourself, your internal privacy and thoughts [me thinking: do we even want to know what we ourselves are thinking? How might that break creativity?] She is talking about human dignity. #AIEthics
now transitioning to think about governance panels. Neuromarketing is happening, huge work has already gone into it. We discuss the continuum between AI and neurotech, some think not much more will be found beyond what AI already does. I bring up the bypassing of deliberate choice and the desire not to have conscious/legal awareness of how systems work, as an attempt to avoid liability.
Chile has amended the constitution to protect neural data. #privacy #cpdp2024 #AIEthics
Pawel Swieboda thinks the EU is really well prepared for governance. with all the GDPR, the product liability upgrades etc. There's a question of whether to use all this that exists or make a "neuro act.” Laura Lazaro Cabrera The #AIAct already coveres anything that produces output from context [YAY!!] so neurotech is covered. Still arguments about whether neuro data is personal data (??? yes?), medical data (some of it, both?) biometrics is instant high risk. #privacy #cpdp2024 #AIEthics
“Every time you have a product there is a risk surface" Cabrera going further on the medical device regulations, why the explicitly intended application should not be what determines the regulation. [So GDPR & AIAct are great places to start, rather than medical devices?]
Brazilian law is very explicit about fundamental rights, better than #AIAct (weird that she thinks AIA needs such when she was the one talking about the wonderful extant foundation of all EU law] #privacy #cpdp2024 #AIEthics
I really dislike the dissing of the #AIAct process. It went on for many years, there were many public consultations, then there was a last minute pile=on that bloated it with holes GAFAM can exploit. Now it's being cast as a poor process where there wasn't enough civil engagement. WHAT???
The panel is demanding not just opportunities but more invitations and conversations. Claimed it was just a website. Need to work with partners who are public engagement pros.
But I love the present conversation: about regressing to some normative mean by prosthetic enforced conformity. The elimination of the deaf communities. Parents or consent will overrule, or companies may just pay fees and move on.
Ha, he says educators should be involved. We absolutely were with the AIA. OK, now he's describing agile development, working with the users throughout product development, that I do agree with. #AIAct #privacy #cpdp2024 #AIEthics
Had to leave the neurotech panel a little early to make a meeting back in the main building of my own panel. Now in https://www.cpdpconferences.org/cpdp-panels/privacy-and-surveillance-in-the-quantum-age-developments-in-quantum-sensing-technologies-and-their-implications
Privacy and Surveillance in the Quantum Age: Developments in Quantum Sensing Technologies and their Implications.
My own panel will be next, 11:50 Safeguarding AI Systems: Grounding Global Governance for AI in Human Rights Law organised by @article19 I won't toot it.
#AIAct #privacy #cpdp2024 #AIEthics
quantum sensing allows you to measure e.g. weight extremely precise with no calibration just looking at one atom and relying on the physics. So you can weigh a truck, or you can detect magma and predict volcano eruptions, HIGHLY sensitive radio transmissions can be detected, stable in time. Magnetic fields very precise, can see the heart beat. [sounds like the ethics issues will be just like the #neurotech panel] This has all been Philippe Bouyer.
Some of the problems are that you just can't get this super precise sensitive sensor anywhere near what you actually want to measure.
McKinsey is on this panel & now talking about money. Sizeable investment comparable to #genAI. So VC has confidence. Like blockchain, they are saying "look, you can see it works” trying to dispel doubt, but will it actually be useful? "quantum will have the same impact as genAI” [ha no unless both are 0!]
[to be fair, I think he meant the same scale] #privacy #cpdp2024 #quantum #quantumSensing Someone Chris Hoofnagel? wrote a book with the awesome Simpson Garfinkle which is OA on CUP. and aimed at regulators / governance to be clear. Quantum sensing and quantum simulation are both short of quantum computing and will be real sooner. The cryptoanalysis threat is overhyped, and Simpson has ell described how those will actually manifest in Lawfare, but we should focus on sensing…
Hoofnagle wants #privacy people to be thinking about totally new capabilities, like that you can do a lot of quantum sensing from space. You can tell whether a truck has its normal load or maybe a bomb. Quantum radar is stealth sensing -- could maybe detect stealth airplanes, and the quantum array would not be detectable by the advesary. Huge change if no one knows where radar is. Also, cannot be blocked “denied" like GPS is being by Russia right now.
China might go after the single quantum clock a nation has (Taiwan?) They need some other way to ensure computers don't drift so China can't just knock that out. Then we need also think about signals intelligence. #MASINT will become more important. It will be hard for nations to hide things, especially from space, so won't bother decoding signals. Are there countermeasures to sensing gravity? #privacy #cpdp2024 #quantum #quantumSensing
Masa Galic: specialist in surveillance (lawyer) There's different kinds, not all big brother and panopticon. We have a lot of smart sensors at home. She has a smart camera and baby monitors and smart phones. She thinks we might be less likely to survey individuals than populations. "Digital twin of whole world" “always on data collection”
Ha ha she ends saying it's a good thing that quantum hardly ever actually works.
Hendrik Weimer@j2bryson Not really. As everyone else in the world, Taiwan is not using their own time standard, but one derived from International Atomic Time (TAI), to which the Taiwanese clock only contributes a small part. As long as they can sync with TAI every now and then, timekeeping is not going to be a concern.