_haha_oh_wow_Maine Cybertruck Owner Sad Everyone Hates His Truck
no bananaNo way!
TropicalDingdongI mean is it really a truck?
There needs to be a way to validate if something is a truck.
Like, if you can’t put a 2x4 in it, is it a truck? Is an el camino a truck?
IF a cybertruck is a truck, is a Pontiac Aztek a truck?
empireOfLove2Per the legal US definition, almost every SUV is a “light truck”, including my 1999 Subaru Forester…
OpenStarsiirc, that is bc your Forester is an SUV that uses a truck chassis underneath, whereas the otherwise extremely similar Crosstrek uses the Impreza chassis so is more of a high “car”. But that could change over the years and I’m not really a car person so don’t quote me or anything!:-P
commandarHis Forrester is built on a Legacy chassis; it’s a four door sedan with a little lift and a bigger body shell on top.
Thanks for the correction. I see now, so it’s a larger car chassis - so as @[email protected] said, that’s not a “truck”, light or otherwise, at all!?
I did a search and found this article suggesting that it is a historical (hehe, some might say… “legacy”, eh?:-P) naming scheme, based on fuel economy:
The U.S. government uses light-duty trucking as a vehicle class for the regulation of fuel economy by enforcing the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. The light-duty truck class includes pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles (SUVs), vans, and minivans.
Since light-duty trucks are typically used for utility purposes rather than personal use, they have lower standards for fuel economy than cars do.
nope, not a truck in any sense of the word. granted I use it like one, lol, but it is very much a light passenger car chassis.
don’t quote me or anything!
starts singing the best part of Killing In The Name
Uno Reverse!
That’s the one I should have gone with in the first place btw lol, much less unnecessarily harsh 😆
Fwiw, I did not downvote you, and enjoyed the trip down memory lane!:-P
The Forester up until 2008 was quite literally an Impreza/Legacy chassis that shares identical drivetrain components except for the body. It is unibody, Macpherson strut, symmetrical AWD and as far from a truck as you can get.
There are plenty of SUVs with unibodies. Hell every Jeep Cherokee from 1984 on is a unibody.
Yeah I was wrong about that. I mentioned this in another reply:
The U.S. government uses light-duty trucking as a vehicle class for the regulation of fuel economy by enforcing the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. The light-duty truck class includes pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles (SUVs), vans, and minivans.
Since light-duty trucks are typically used for utility purposes rather than personal use, they have lower standards for fuel economy than cars do.
From this article.
And this is why it is a scam. All of these vehicles are all used as soccer mom mobiles.
Nuh uh! Only 90% are that way… the rest are men who buy into how “sporty” they are.:-)
I did love watching a video of a tiny Subaru Crosstrek able to do as well as a tow truck - it’s not just about power, but tire traction grip.
Also people who don’t buy into the whole “truck=manly” schtick.
But definitely 90% soccer moms too ofc.:-P
vaultdweller013I drive a 91 Cherokee and I defend myself because I like Jeeps and cherokees are easy to work on. I would kill for an old 70s military Jeep truck though, hell id commit genocide for one of those old boxed Willy Jeeps they find in the gods forsaken deep storage of places like the Sierra Army Depot.
I mean, you could probably build one… no need for the genocide at all;-P.
Rebuild one, the few that are still in the boxes are given to museums not psychotic Rednecks. On more realistic levels though I think it’d be neat to get an old willy Jeep body and convert it to electric, theyre light enough that a squad of men can pick them up so I figure they may actually lose weight without an engine depending on the battery type.
That would actually be pretty cool. Not that a new in box one wouldn’t be pretty cool, too.
That would be awesome! I love classic Jeeps, especially the Willy’s era - if you actually ever manage to do this, I hope you make a video journal and share it somewhere.
And the reason for this is that the “light truck” classification has weaker emissions standards, so they can cheap out on efficiency of the engine which means higher profit margins (and more harmful pollution for us to enjoy inhaling).
Carighan MaconarHonestly if the POS that Tesla sells here counts as a truck, my bicycle does…
There needs to be a way to validate if something is a truck.
Isn’t there already legal definitions such as gross vehicle weight or body-on-frame construction?
USA Light Truck definition: Firstly, the vehicle must have a gross vehicle weight–that’s the curb weight plus payload–of no more than 8,500 lbs. Secondly, it has to be designed to transport persons, property, or be fitted with special features allowing its “off-street or off-highway operation and use”.
Why Your Car Is A Truck, Under Federal Law, And What Makes It One
If you've got any plans to buy a 2015 Lexus NX 300h when it hits the U.S, you might be surprised to learn that it's not actually a car. According to the EPA, your new luxury crossover vehicle is nothing more than a light truck. It doesn't look like a truck. It doesn't drive like a truck. So why is the new NX luxury crossover utility vehicle a truck? It's...
Hey a 1961 Ford was my first vehicle. I did a lot of truck things with that. It was even one of one built of the crappy falcon body, which was one of Ford’s first unibodies. Boy did that thing flex.
I even parked next to 2005ish Ford F150, with that dumb extra short bed. My 50 year old caruck has a bigger bed on it.
The El Camino is a mullet.
If you can’t fit a sheet of plywood in the bed, I’d call it a waste of time.
I heard the cyber truck called the “Incel Camino” and now I can’t think of it any other way.
I mean, the el Camino caught a lot of flak when I was young. I remember my “surfer/ stoner/ slacker/ loser” gen x cousin who was a pool guy used his as a work vehicle and I guarantee that guy was SMASHING with that ride. I’m not saying a cyber truck truck is on that level and but some things take time to catch on.
It’s an Incel Camino
magnetosphereScratching a stranger’s car is never okay.
Can’t say I agree. For example, if someone hits you with their car? It’s ok to scratch it.
For example, if someone hits you with their car? It’s ok to scratch it.
Are you 12?
Or do you just see every unfortunate occurrence as personal victimization?
But what if it ain’t a car but a Cybertruck?
Scratching another unmet civilians vehicular mode of transport is never okay.
It is if they blatantly block sidewalks like the entitled assholes that they are.
dohpaz42No! Bad DarkThoughts!
You call a tow truck and have the vehicle towed at the owner’s expense.
Oh my sweet summer child. Sidewalk parking is more or less legal in Germany since cars are generally placed above people. It's literally happening everywhere. My entire street is full of people being 1/3 on the sidewalk.
KnuschberkeksNo it’s not. You can’t park your car on the sidewalk unless explicitly allowed by a sign. If you park on the sidewalk you have to pay a fine, if your car is blocking something you also get a Punkt in Flensburg.
Dude, literally every damn city residential area is like this. No one cares, especially not the Ordnungsamt who should be responsible for it, or politicians. Worst case, they just add some white paint and whoop it is legal, because fuck pedestrians.
I don't even know why you try to argue otherwise when it's literally my reality that I have to constantly squeeze myself through between cars and walls because the sidewalk is not even wide enough for two people anymore with all the cars parking on it. Like literally every single time, for decades. And the fatter the cars get each year, the worse it gets too. Even firefighters already complained about this because they often can't even drive through some streets since even the car lane itself is too narrow thanks to the cars, even if they park right against the house walls.
But hey, here's Knuschberkeks telling me that I am apparently hallucinating.
I don't even know why you try to argue otherwise when it's literally my reality that I have to constantly squeeze myself through between cars and walls because the sidewalk is not even wide enough for two people anymore with all the cars parking on it. Like literally every single time, for decades. And the fatter the cars get each year, the worse it gets too. Even firefighters already complained about this because they often can't even drive through some streets since even the car lane itself is too narrow thanks to the cars, even if they park right against the house walls.
But hey, here's Knuschberkeks telling me that I am apparently hallucinating.
Calm down. I didn’t say it’s not what’s happening. Yes it is happening, especially in bigger citys. Yes it is incredibly annoying. But that doesn’t mean it’s legal. Have you tried to do anything about it?
I said it is "more or less legal", meaning it is defacto legal because no one actually enforces it and rather makes it legal if they had to enforce it.
what happens if you report them?
I don't report, because it's not anonymous. And other people who kept reporting like crazy ended up getting charged for it by the police, so I'd rather not do that. Plus it is typically the case that reports aren't getting followed up upon. Not that it would even make sense to literally report every single car all the way down the entire street anyway. I've seen Ordnungsamt people walk through it, so they very clearly know. Not that it is some secret anyway since again, it's absolutely everywhere. It's the norm. So if they wanted to enforce it, then they could just do it.
I admit I don’t know a lot about this type of stuff, but there must be some (probably super involved) way to get this enforced. I mean it is written in law so there must be some way to fight it, but you’d probably have to sue the Ordnungsamt or the city some shit like that.
Cars have such a high priority in people's lives that this wouldn't help much because a court would generally rule in favor of the cars, since a lot of people are basically dependent on them, which somehow justifies having your car park in front of your house. Otherwise we'd have the consequence of having to create dedicated parking spaces everywhere in form of parking garages / houses, which would be away from where people live since the space for that is typically not existent.
But hey, you're welcome to try to create some sort of precedence in court. Maybe you can afford some very good lawyer who could pull this through and convince the judge.
But hey, you're welcome to try to create some sort of precedence in court. Maybe you can afford some very good lawyer who could pull this through and convince the judge.
In what world is a tow truck going to tow a car for parking on the side walk? They’re gonna tell you to call the cops or parking enforcement and the cops don’t even show up for gun shots
SharkAttakThey probably just wanted to see if it's really bulletproof..
Carrie Underwood has an entire song about how you are wrong.
ThatWeirdGuy1001Yeah but it’s not a stranger in the song
Purposely, yeah, but if I open my door into it, don’t park do fucking close to the line
But what if the person on the other side was parked over the line and I had to leave space to get out and then they left and now I look like I parked like an asshole and then some asshole uses that as an excuse to ding my car.
That’s just how the cookie crumbles. If you really can’t stomach any rings leave the car I. The garage
Get fucked carfuckers
I am on your side about this. I can’t stand the people who need their car to be in perfect appearance and do asshole things to get it that way.
It’s a fucking machine that you use to move goods and people from a to b. Not a statement, not a status symbol, not a penis enhancement. Scratches are just battle scars. My civic looks like shit and I don’t care.
Drive a normal sized car and that won’t happen. Or just you know walk a bit extra. Won’t kill you.
It is strange and striking that climate change activists have not committed any acts of terrorism. After all, terrorism is for the individual by far the modern world’s most effective form of political action, and climate change is an issue about which people feel just as strongly as about, say, animal rights. This is especially noticeable when you bear in mind the ease of things like blowing up petrol stations, or vandalising SUVs. In cities, SUVs are loathed by everyone except the people who drive them; and in a city the size of London, a few dozen people could in a short space of time make the ownership of these cars effectively impossible, just by running keys down the side of them, at a cost to the owner of several thousand pounds a time. Say fifty people vandalising four cars each every night for a month: six thousand trashed SUVs in a month and the Chelsea tractors would soon be disappearing from our streets. So why don’t these things happen?
mojofrododojoI think it says more about the personalities on each side. ICE loving climate deniers are aggressive by nature.
No, it’s more that people who care about climate change are good at long term thinking. There are no cuddly animals to rescue right now, so people who want instant gratification do other things.
People who are good at long term thinking commit fewer types of impulse crimes. Vandalism is an unintelligent way to get your point across. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the paint job on the SUV.