The Fediverse seems thrilled with Jews leaving the platform through continued widespread antisemitism.

I'm

Jewish and I'm thinking of leaving/mostly left
6.2%
Jewish and it makes me want to stay more
19.8%
Not Jewish, and I'm glad to see them gone
1.7%
Not Jewish and it makes me sad to see Jews leave, but I'm not really doing anything about it
54.1%
Not Jewish and I'm doing something to stop it (please specify what in the comments)
18.2%
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@serge I've got a lot of not knowing _what_ to do about it? I run an instance and I guess I have limited enough interaction with the parts of Fedi this is coming from that I don't even see it to defederate from it and it wouldn't help anyway because well... yeah. idk what to do here. Other than to boost stuff by people talking about it if it seems appropriate to do so.

@moira

I think the answer to what to do if you're a smaller instance is hard, which actually points to a flaw in the Fediverse design, which is that the larger your instance is, the more unacceptable the behavior it can perform and still be "too big to fail".

I'll come back to your question, but let me explain what I mean first.

Let's say you're a small/medium size instance, not a boutique 10 person instance, but a 200-1000 person instance, and you're really upset with the way that a huge instance is behaving, one with 50k users.

You can't really choose to de-federate from it, because if you did that, then your users would suddenly be unable to communicate with friends, popular accounts, etc.

The power differential is too big, so nothing bad happens to the large instance.

Now let's bring that back to your question...

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@moira

The issue I see is that instances by in large don't treat antisemitism seriously, and the only way to excerpt control over that would be to "hurt them" by de-fedderating from them. That's the only serious moderation measure other sites have.

But the problem is that this needs to happen by such a large number of sites that it's going to really be felt by the larger instance, and what we on Babka Social see is precisely the opposite, that many sites are explicitly antisemitic, or they take a "hands off" approach, or whatever.

This models the issue in real life which we're seeing.

So the answer is if you're a small instance, take antisemitism on your server seriously, and if someone complains, take that seriously.

Maybe we need a collaboration on antisemitism, since the safety groups on the Fediverse now have either not addressed it, or are openly antisemitic themselves.

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@serge So basically what I do in general and in particular on racism issues I guess. I'll carry on carrying on, I suppose...