“At Microsoft, the share of senior employees as a portion of the company’s overall workforce declined more than 5 percentage points after the return-to-office mandate took effect, the researchers found. At Apple, the decline was 4 percentage points, while at SpaceX — the only company of the three to require workers to be fully in-person — the share of senior employees dropped 15 percentage points.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/05/12/rto-microsoft-apple-spacex/

Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

In the months following return-to-office mandates, an increased number of senior employees departed Apple, Microsoft and SpaceX, often to work for competitors.

The Washington Post
@histoftech free layoffs is what I am hearing
@blinkygal @histoftech Or brain drain, depending on your perspective, I guess?

@histoftech My company was acquired by Microsoft (after a couple of years at AT&T, long story..) I was originally hired as a full-time remote employee. At first, I made trips to the NYC office pretty frequently for a week at a time, every few weeks to get stuff up and running. Eventually that transitioned to a week every 5 or 6 weeks. That was "easy" for me, because it was 5 hours by car/train from from home, and relatively inexpensive compared to flying.

We also did quarterly trips to HQ for all the remote workers as well as those at other sites. That worked out well to get the team together.

So remote work during COVID was business as usual, no problem.

Now we're in a situation at MIcrosoft with a continuation of "no essential business travel" and no in-person meetings on a regular basis. Hybrid models are very common and perceived valuable; just not when the company has to pay for it occasionally as "business travel."

@histoftech come to the office. But don't ask to go to the office in india enen though that is where the people I need to collaborate with are.