Augie RayMay 7, 2024
"I'm so angry at Biden over Isreal/Gaza that I'm going to help Trump destroy democracy, weaponize the Justice system, send millions to deportation camps, lower the taxes on the wealthy and shift the burden to the middle class, cut Social Security, track and prosecute women having abortions, pardon the people who violently attacked Capitol police, dismantle NATO, help Russia, AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT do even more harm to Palestinians" is a take--it's just a really awful take, IMO.
Show threadEvan ProdromouMay 7, 2024

@augieray

"I support this war so much that I'm going to ignore the position of the vast majority of my constituents and party members even though it endangers our chances of re-election in the Fall" is also a take.

Show threadAmoshiasMay 7, 2024

@evan @augieray please provide the tiniest bit of evidence that Biden is ignoring the position of his constituents.

This is a straw man, you know it's a straw man, but you're putting it out there nevertheless.

Show threadEvan ProdromouMay 7, 2024
@Amoshias @augieray there is a war.
Show threadAmoshias

@evan @augieray oh. I forgot that as the duly elected president of the United States Biden has the ability to stop any war anywhere in the world.

My bad.

May 7, 2024 at 5:31pmWeb
Show threadJérômeMay 7, 2024
@Amoshias @evan @augieray Your sarcastic tone doesn't help you when you consider how much weapons and money is being sent in support of Israel right now from the US government. He might not be able to "stop" the war, but he could stop funding it.
Show threadAmoshiasMay 7, 2024

@jerome @evan @augieray even that, I don't think is completely clear - if you recall, the last president got in a spot of trouble for not sending out aid that Congress had authorized. But I think it's legitimately debatable and a very arguable point.

What people are actually saying - what I'm responding to- is so ridiculous and over the top that it deserves nothing but sarcasm.

Show threadJérômeMay 7, 2024
@Amoshias @evan @augieray i guess there’s nothing the president of the United States can do then! He did all he could already, just have to keep sending all those weapons and money to Israel forever.
Show threadAmoshiasMay 7, 2024

@jerome @evan @augieray yes, you are absolutely right. The proper response to me saying "I think there are nuanced points to be made and discussed here, but the ridiculous, over the top nonsense being spouted by idiots who are happy to accept fascism as long as they get to yell at people along the way" is... ridiculous, over the top nonsense.

Well played.