Either ya understand why most women pick the đŸ» or you are the đŸ».

https://lemmy.world/post/15092107

Either ya understand why most women pick the đŸ» or you are the đŸ». - Lemmy.World

I thought this whole thing was bait until a streamer recently told a personal anecdote: he recently went to a wedding, and at some point, he realized that all the women kept the drinks in their hands, for the whole time, until they were done with them. After asking about it, he was told that it was standard safety to avoid getting roofied. At that point I realized I had seriously underestimated the chances of running across a psycho capable of gifting you some precious trauma for most people.
Thing is, statistically speaking, you, as a male, have way more chances of dying, getting assaulted, getting robbed, and in general pretty much every kind of crime that is not sexual assault. So you have way more chances of running across a traumatic psycho, yet you do not see every male holding the drink like that.

Sure, but statistically speaking, as a male, I also engage in more “risky” behavior, such as taking walks during pitch black night at 3AM. Analyzing that statistic without taking into consideration how much caution is exercised by each gender is meaningless.

And regardless, I think the discussion of “Which gender has it worse” is less important than “how do we make society safer for everyone”. I want to take safe walks at 3AM ffs.

Sure, if course, the goal is the make it safer for everyone. One if the ways to make it a safer and better place is to stop inducing females with the unbased fear that just by existing and being nearby a man they are going to be raped, killed or worse. Because it does not happen, and then it devolves into fucking sexism. And it’s not okay. Most men here will have never have raped, sexually assaulted nor been anything remotely violent towards women. Yet media/sociaty acts as if they all are! WTF how is that cool? Isn’t that the same as racism, ageism and other isms? Judging/presenting someone by the negative traits of few of their population?

Plus legally in most countries a woman can get you drunk and or drugged and have sex with you against your will or consent and it’s legally okay, but the opposite is not true. You can be a male musician, like say, Justin Bieber or the guy playing guitar on the metro and be CONSTANTLY interrupted and harassed by women and noone bats an eye. Hell, I said male a couple times, if I said female referring to a woman everyone would lose their shit!

First step to make thinks safer/better for everyone is stop fear mongering and demonizing one group, that’s what I’m saying.

I think the discussion of “Which gender has it worse” is less important than “how do we make society safer for everyone”

You immediately went back into “Which gender has it worse”. There are no sides here, people just make it that way.

I understand how you feel. There’s an often promoted stereotype that men are large, strong, aggressive, and sexually predatory that informs public perception and behaviour. But it’s an opinion that you need to try get across using a lot of tact, and a demonstrable understanding of other points of view. Especially in discussions like these, as it’s possible for both parties to be in the right, just identifying different problems.

This post comes off as a rant that only appeals to people who already agree with you. You and others aren’t going to learn anything. Try removing some of the energy, especially the anger. Calm it down, don’t use extreme examples. Read what others are saying, digest it, and properly incorporate it into your response and world view.

The vast majority of people aren’t outright lying, they just have a different view of reality that you can learn from

I get that, and it may come across as aggressive, true. That was not the intent. I’m not saying they are lying, I’m trying to say they should stop focusing only on “this group is the victim”, “this group is the predator”, which is the vibe that most people here give. And the other examples (which are pretty common everyday, not extreme, I think, though I did point one extreme case that people know.

Also, it’s pretty tyring trying to write anything here on lemmy since every time you say something someone disagrees with you are “sea lioning”, “you are a troll” or “you are the bear”. (not you, check the other comments). Nobody goes tell them “You should remain calm and have civil conversation”, though.

Also, it’s pretty tyring trying to write anything here on lemmy since every time you say something someone disagrees with you are “sea lioning”, “you are a troll” or “you are the bear”. (not you, check the other comments). Nobody goes tell them “You should remain calm and have civil conversation”, though.

I’ve replied to a few suggesting they calm down, but most seems dismissive or otherwise not worth the time. I wouldn’t have said anything if I didn’t think you were being sincere. I genuinely think you could be a force for positive discussion.

This whole post and it comments are quite depressing for me, as I just see people with valid points getting so passionate that they’re both talking past each other (yourself included). It raises defences and no one learns anything