@HarastaEva
You really need to read up on the Nakba and history of the US and Israel’s actions in the region. Decades of occupation, oppression, apartheid, land stealing and literal murder does not lend itself to peace. Israel is not the hero of this story.

@davidho

@Mogleg @davidho You mentioning the word „apartheid“ makes me wonder if you know that there are around 2,080,000 Arab Israelis who live as integrated Israeli citizens in the state of Israel (21.1% of the overall population), and if you know that there are Arab Israelis among the victims of the October 7 attack (both among the people who were murdered and among the people who were taken hostage).

By these sentences, I do not justify or defend Israeli settlement policy in the West Bank.

The word „apartheid“ is a polemical marker when applied to Israel. As is „occupation“ when it is used to put the legitimacy of the state of Israel in question. (I cannot tell by your brief statement whether you mean this.)

The October 7 attack was murderous. It was the worst pogrom since 1945. And it happened in Israel.

I do not think anyone or any entity is a hero. I think looking for a hero, or for the heroic cause, is not helpful at all.

@HarastaEva
Then I’m sure everyone living there are treated the same under the same laws and are afforded the same privileges? There are no roads only certain people can use, no areas only certain people can inhabit, no people deemed second class? Israel is not an ethno-state for some people only?

You’ll note South Africa does not share your rosy opinion of the situation and I dare say they know a thing or two about apartheid.

@davidho