David HoI find it weird that newspapers characterize students as being “pro-Palestinian” as opposed to anti whatever you call this.
Eva Harasta@davidho It is Hamas that caused this, that horrifyingly profits from this, and that continues to cause it by repeatedly refusing Israel‘s offers for a ceasefire.
Mogleg@HarastaEva
You really need to read up on the Nakba and history of the US and Israel’s actions in the region. Decades of occupation, oppression, apartheid, land stealing and literal murder does not lend itself to peace. Israel is not the hero of this story.
@Mogleg @davidho You mentioning the word „apartheid“ makes me wonder if you know that there are around 2,080,000 Arab Israelis who live as integrated Israeli citizens in the state of Israel (21.1% of the overall population), and if you know that there are Arab Israelis among the victims of the October 7 attack (both among the people who were murdered and among the people who were taken hostage).
By these sentences, I do not justify or defend Israeli settlement policy in the West Bank.
The word „apartheid“ is a polemical marker when applied to Israel. As is „occupation“ when it is used to put the legitimacy of the state of Israel in question. (I cannot tell by your brief statement whether you mean this.)
The October 7 attack was murderous. It was the worst pogrom since 1945. And it happened in Israel.
I do not think anyone or any entity is a hero. I think looking for a hero, or for the heroic cause, is not helpful at all.
@HarastaEva
Then I’m sure everyone living there are treated the same under the same laws and are afforded the same privileges? There are no roads only certain people can use, no areas only certain people can inhabit, no people deemed second class? Israel is not an ethno-state for some people only?
You’ll note South Africa does not share your rosy opinion of the situation and I dare say they know a thing or two about apartheid.
@HarastaEva
You tell yourself whatever you need in order to ignore reality. Maybe one day you will open your eyes but today is not that day. I wish you luck 😊
Tim FordAre you going to protest against current settlement construction in Palestinian territories? Are you strenuously raising your voice against Netanyahu and Zionists terrorizing Palestinian families, forcing them from their homes, denying their land claims, systematically bulldozing and illegally building homes with low-paid Palestinian labour that arrives through literal locked gates and is kicked back out at sundown?
Morgan ⚧️@HarastaEva @davidho if you don't want to read up on the history of a conflict, that's fine. You don't have to have an opinion. You can just keep your mouth shut until you know more than 2% of what's happening, we can wait.
Hadley T. Canine (fox)@raphaelmorgan @HarastaEva Their profile says they're a theologian, so being unable to shut up when talking about things that never happened is kind of their whole deal.
David Bruchmann@hadley @raphaelmorgan @HarastaEva
And she mentions she is Lutheran
Luther was an exceptional Anti-Jews
""...Luther expressed anti-Judaistic views, calling for the expulsion of Jews and the burning of synagogues. These works also targeted Roman Catholics, Anabaptists and nontrinitarian Christians. Based upon his teachings, despite the fact that Luther did not advocate the murdering of Jews, ... his rhetoric contributed to the development of antisemitism in Germany...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther
ChookMother 🇦🇺🦘@HarastaEva @davidho This is what bullies say about the women they beat to death. "It was her fault. She shouldn't have provoked me".
@HarastaEva @davidho
Oh, I wasn't aware history began on Oct. 7. I guess we'd better ignore literally anything that happened prior to that.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/5/14/israels-bombardment-of-gaza-continues-live
Kiloku - Secretário do Caos@HarastaEva @davidho
Israel only started talking about ceasefire after extreme external pressure, after they murdered tens of thousands of civilians, and even then their "offer" contradicts itself, they directly claim that they will attack regardless of whether its agreed to or not.
They attack areas they're fully aware have no Hamas activity.
Even clearly unarmed Israeli civilians were killed by the IDF because they just take pot-shots at anyone not in uniform they see.