GlyphYesterday my kid was explaining how to do something on their iPad, and they told me "first you have to go into the debugger", which really threw me for a loop. After asking a few questions about it, it became clear that the "debugger" was the multitasking view. When I asked why they were calling it the "debugger", they said "because that's where you go if an app has a bug, you throw it off the screen to get the bugs out". Apparently "debugger" was a word of their own invention, in this context
JayF@glyph ...this is the modern day "just turn it off and on again" in some ways, isn't it ... if you kid already knew to kill the app to fix it
shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽@glyph flicking the screen off is a time honored debugging technique!
James Williams@glyph In a way they played us all for fools… giving us a product called a debugger that technically doesn’t debug shit.
sarah tonin 
Luke Kanies
kabika@glyph sounds like how the term "debug" was invented.
Phil 
@glyph obvious really. If the app is buggered, you need to debugger it.
Squiggle@glyph I don't think that kills the app though. You need to go to settings, then apps, then force a stop there.
You will notice the stop button is not greyed out if you tried to kill the app with the kids' technique.
If you have a rooted phone you can run ps -aux on the linux command line to confirm.
You will notice the stop button is not greyed out if you tried to kill the app with the kids' technique.
If you have a rooted phone you can run ps -aux on the linux command line to confirm.
Izzard@Izzard @glyph Same happens on Android, kind of. Even when swiped away the app is still running in the background and still pinging you notifications.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/1379741/closing-android-apps-by-swiping-them-away-what-that-actually-does.html
https://www.computerworld.com/article/1379741/closing-android-apps-by-swiping-them-away-what-that-actually-does.html
Jeff Dutky@sqgl @glyph @Izzard that is NOT at all the same as what happens on iPhone and iPad: when you leave an app on iOS it actually terminates. It gets to write a little state data, so it can pick up where it left off on next launch, but otherwise it’s done and gone. It can register a helper to do certain things in the background (download files, play sounds, etc) but that’s it: no real running in the background.
@sqgl @glyph @Izzard I’m not sure it’s exactly a misuse, so much as an alternate meaning. I had noticed that I could unfreeze some apps on iOS by swiping to the Home Screen and returning to the app: saving and restoring state is pretty effective at getting around whatever malfunction had caused the app to stop responding.
Casper 👻@glyph
That makes a-lot of sense
That makes a-lot of sense
Ben Loomis
Ryek DarkenerWe are lost. By our own design.
Jim Luther
lavenderLOL that's really funny, makes a lot of sense though
meganisalanis