fuck "intellectual property".
@ShadowJonathan so it's ok if amazon or microsoft just use code from open source projects and makes it proprietary?
@icantcode that's still making it "intellectual property", I said "fuck "intellectual property"", fuck copyright
@ShadowJonathan I'm just saying that the whole concept of foss relies on copyright.
The lawsuits against AI training data also rely on copyright laws.
And so on.
Do you truly hate copyright as a concept or do you just hate when big companies abuse it in order to retain dominant position?
@ShadowJonathan also, ironically proprietary software is not copyright. You just don't upload the source. You can make a 100% copyleft proprietary program.

@icantcode you can't, if the software is used anywhere outside the company, then they have to provide source, or similar measures

In which case such software might as well not exist if it doesn't exist outside the company, as then it is not contributed or even exposed to the commons

@icantcode no, I hate copyright

And Foss doesn't "depend" on copyright, it "depends" on volunteer work, as corporations cannot contribute to Foss without acknowledging that they are (effectively) "wasting" money, or waxing reputation, in which case the foss software exists for as long as it is profitable to do it that way