Spring Jo 🥚  🍀
fuck "intellectual property".
May 3, 2024 at 10:07amWeb
Show threadSpring Jo 🥚  🍀May 3, 2024

genuinely, apple using law firms to strongarm people into not using their logo or name "without permission" is putting corporations over people, over the expression of art and speech itself, that they can then dictate their entire likelihood

corporations are not people, corporations exist in a society, and they should not get to say how they should be perceived, as in every case it'll be 1k dedicated workers trying to clean that image, against single persons trying to poke that image, and then getting legally strongarmed for doing so

Show threadSpring Jo 🥚  🍀May 3, 2024
this is part of why the legal system is so broken btw, and why it does not represent a formalised system of rules for society; it is impenetrable by any average participant, complicated enough to require dedicated expertise, all of which makes the average citizen defenceless against large corporations "leveraging" the "law" like this
Show threadSpring Jo 🥚  🍀May 3, 2024

thats not even to talk about how capitalism feeds into this and catalyses this effect; to get a proper legal representation, you have to pay an exorbitant fee to a professional, or else you're at the mercy of the allegations that the prosecuting party throws at you, which you *need* to participate in, or else you risk default judgement (which will not be in your favour)

so effectively, the system of law is tilted in the favour of those who have money, in this fashion

(and also tilted in the favour of those who know the system itself and can poke holes in it, but thats an additional factor)

Show threadWillow "Wolveric" CatkinMay 3, 2024
@ShadowJonathan
"YouTube's copyright system isn't broken. The world's is."
- Tom Scott, 2020
Show thread>> [email protected]May 3, 2024
@ShadowJonathan can you cw this
Show threadSpring Jo 🥚  🍀May 3, 2024
@tapesinside done
Show threaddelta  May 3, 2024
@ShadowJonathan the fact that a sufficiently large corporation can just 'claim' a dictionary word kinda bothers me tbh

like, you just can't use "apple" for tech related things anymore
Show threadMeu May 3, 2024
@ShadowJonathan so it's ok if amazon or microsoft just use code from open source projects and makes it proprietary?
Show threadSpring Jo 🥚  🍀May 3, 2024
@icantcode that's still making it "intellectual property", I said "fuck "intellectual property"", fuck copyright
Show threadMeu May 3, 2024
@ShadowJonathan I'm just saying that the whole concept of foss relies on copyright.
The lawsuits against AI training data also rely on copyright laws.
And so on.
Do you truly hate copyright as a concept or do you just hate when big companies abuse it in order to retain dominant position?
Show threadMeu May 3, 2024
@ShadowJonathan also, ironically proprietary software is not copyright. You just don't upload the source. You can make a 100% copyleft proprietary program.
Show threadSpring Jo 🥚  🍀May 3, 2024

@icantcode you can't, if the software is used anywhere outside the company, then they have to provide source, or similar measures

In which case such software might as well not exist if it doesn't exist outside the company, as then it is not contributed or even exposed to the commons

Show threadSpring Jo 🥚  🍀May 3, 2024

@icantcode no, I hate copyright

And Foss doesn't "depend" on copyright, it "depends" on volunteer work, as corporations cannot contribute to Foss without acknowledging that they are (effectively) "wasting" money, or waxing reputation, in which case the foss software exists for as long as it is profitable to do it that way

Show threadjamespthomasMay 3, 2024
@ShadowJonathan owner -creator?
Show threadSpring Jo 🥚  🍀May 3, 2024
@jamespthomas ?
Show threadjamespthomasMay 3, 2024
@ShadowJonathan there is no art without ownership,therefor ai owns it own art