Passkeys were hot last year, don’t seem to be catching on, here’s one view of why that is. Dark and sobering but convincing: https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/2024-04-26-passkeys-a-shattered-dream/
Passkeys: A Shattered Dream

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@timbray ah, I have looked at passkeys a couple of times and feared them because of lock-in, and this suggests that I'm not the only one thinking it!
@sil @timbray Lock in? Every OS supports them
@objc @timbray as far as I can tell, though, I can't move *between* OSes. If I set up my current phone as holding my passkeys, and then I change to a different phone (OS), I am just flat-out stuck; I cannot export my passkeys, or store them myself in some neutral format, or export them to a different device. I might be wrong on this, but every time I've asked I've got that answer, or no answer. If that's changed then I'll be happy to look again.
@sil @objc @timbray So store them in a platform-agnostic password manager like Bitwarden or 1Password. Problem solved.

@MikeBeas @sil @objc So if I'm using 1password and syncing between my laptop & phone, the same passkey can be used on both?

[Definitely getting the feeling that 1Password is the leader at making these things usable. Having said, that, I have yet to convince any nontechnical person to use any password manager aside from the ones in the browsers.]

@timbray @sil @objc Yes, it works like anything else you sync via a password manager. Several password managers support them.

For non-technical users, storing them in the system keychain is fine. They’re end-to-end encrypted and synced via iCloud or the Google password manager, same as regular passwords. You can scan a QR code on other devices that aren’t able to sync them (Windows or whatever) and login from your phone. It’s a pretty painless process.

@MikeBeas

> It’s a pretty painless process.

Um, the testimony in these threads and the original article suggest that is a minority viewpoint. There have been a couple people pipe up saying “just works for me” but many more saying “pool of pain”.

@sil @objc

@timbray @sil @objc Anecdotal evidence in your mentions is not scientific proof. A great many people are using this stuff who aren’t coming on Mastodon looking for articles about how bad Passkeys are and then replying to them.

@MikeBeas @timbray @sil @objc Do most people “go looking for” posts on a topic on a platform that resisted basic search?

This isn’t a scientific discussion, nor did you back your assertion with the type of “scientific proof” you demand of others. Anecdotal evidence of difficulties *is* evidence a feature is less than intuitive, enough to indicate an observational study. I believe I have a contact at a psych department if you want to fund that.