return2ozmaWhy would she tweet that?! We're so effed...
Source: x.com/HillaryClinton/status/1782400479743324603
Report source she’s talking about: carbonbrief.org/analysis-trump-election-win-could…
givesomefucksShe’s just out there to remind people Biden isn’t the worst possible option, she could have insisted on running again.
she could have insisted on running again.
Like she did in 2020? Oh- wait…
mozzBiden aimed a lot closer to the yellow line than he got; the fact he was able to achieve legislation for the blue line in our current corporate-whore government is a goddamned miracle
And yet somehow, instead of being mad at the elements of our government that blocked the yellow line, or asking who in government we can promote who’s further left than Biden and how we can realistically get those people into a position to win power, some people are purely angry at Biden about it
I wonder why
be sure to also be mad at Hillary Clinton that also is relevant and a move towards progress
Super relevant yes
Like everyone I know on the left, I make sure to follow her Twitter and care about what she posts
That’s my secret, spujb, I’m always mad at everyone
shits pants, rips off shirt, and punches a lobster in the face
weirdchamp but ok
Nobody cares more about Hillary Clinton than the white twitter leftist who’s still mad that their protest vote for stein didn’t do shit to hold anyone accountable and just kick-started the new era of American backsliding.
* white Twitter person-pretending-to-be-a-leftist
Unfortunately, there are stupid leftists. Denying it doesn’t help, I’ve tried.
1800doctorbMy thoughts exactly. 4 years of a democratic president (and Joe Manchin + Kyrsten Sinema being sticks in the mud) got the blue line to where it is now. That doesn’t mean it stays there forever. Another 4 years of a democratic executive and legislative branch will get us much closer to that yellow line.
We have to keep pushing forward and prevent the country from doing significant environmental backsliding like it did in 2016-2020.
Fucking Krysten Sinema. FFS.
POS sold all her values at the first whiff of oil cash. Fucking soulless ghoul
It's not like you'd get a majority with a yellow line candidate anyway because people would realize that the measures required for this course would severely affect them too.
Biden’s literally a yellow line candidate he just doesn’t have a yellow line congress.
This is hilariously delusional.
Is that why Biden forced federal workers back into the office? Republicans made him do it?
He asked exactly as you say - “how to view for the yellow line”
We’re mad as hell at all politicians. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Who's "we"? I'm certainly not mad as hell at all politicians.
I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed
Bro looks at a candle and goes “nah, there’s no difference” as he jumps into a volcano instead
harkAre you saying being slowly burned to death by a candle is better than a quick death? Your analogy is flawed on multiple levels.
Erm ackshually your obvious hyperbole was hyperbolic
Also no. A candle can simply be put out if it’s burning you.
How can we “put out” the harm that democrats cause when they cater to their rich donors? Come up with a better analogy. Handwaving it as hyperbole doesn’t make it any less of a terrible analogy.
It’s not my fault you misunderstood a pretty simple analogy, but fine, I’ll do it without the analogy. There are two choices. One is bad. One is worse. Neither are good, but they are not the same.
Your stupid analogy is very easy to understand, it’s just wrong in terms of scale.
Hyperbanalogy
It still holds for a campfire vs a house fire, or a small house fire vs a large house fire, or whatever scale you think things are. I’m curious how close you think the two paeties are though, because I don’t want to get sucked into a #bothsides discussion.
EldritchLiterally yeah. If you have any sort of control over it. We do. I’d take slow over quick any day unless I was suicidal. So there’s a rather large hole in your ideology right there.
That’s assuming it’s just a candle. Again, the analogy is flawed on multiple levels. Downplaying the harm that democrats do when they still primarily cater to the rich is disingenuous.
No one is down playing that. You’re simply denying that they’re the best option we currently have afforded to us.
And the fact that we have an argument being made. Of which you would rather die to a candle or lava. Perfectly encapsulates the inanity of the whole argument. It’s like saying which would you rather fight a kitten or a tiger. And then claiming you’d rather fight the tiger because it would kill you faster. And I’m like dude you can kill the kitten really easy. It’s self-defeating. Or at least you’re trying to get people to defeat themselves with such a weak argument.
We’re not going to sabotage ourselves to enable the status quo. We’re going to come for their seats. It may take years. But better to work with what we have to achieve the best we can do. Then to lay down and die because we can’t have the perfect thing.
The “best option” is not good enough and will not lead to the outcome you think it will. That’s why downplaying it as just a candle is ridiculous. It’s like when people say “if you put in the hard work then you will be rewarded”. That’s up to the whims of the system. Of course we should keep voting for democrats every time, but we should be realistic on how far that approach will actually take us.
The bottom line is that people need to vote at every level
Pretty consistently the stopping point in achieving a lot of good has been the margin at which one singular person is able to halt everything.
Republicans barely have to do anything to backslide our democracy and meanwhile the democrats apparently have to end up spectacular in every conceivable way to achieve keeping the fucking lights on and some woefully under-publicized gains.
There needs to be some serious talk about reshaping the republic as all these octogenarians begin to finally drop, because it’s quite obvious that the current federal model has aged out of what clarity the founding fathers may have seen in it. We need leaders on this movement, and we need solid objectives that are clear to the movement.
it’s quite obvious that the current federal model has aged out of what clarity the founding fathers may have seen in it
iirc a decent number of them expected it to be revised regularly, so we’re actually overdue compared to their expectations
lutillianSame reason people are pissed at Biden for every handling of <insert problem here> that 100% falls within the domain of another governmental branch. Currently the executive branch is sorta Atlasing our entire government which requires them to severely overreach their powers opening them up to checks and balances by the other highly sabotaged branches that both seemingly wish to force our entire government to accomplish nothing. The most publicized example of this is three student loan forgiveness package that Biden’s administration tried to pass that got blocked, though there are lots of other examples.
The reality is that the executive branch as a whole has very little long term reach and we need to be pressuring Congress to do literally anything at all. The only time I’m going to look at Biden and say “this is his fault” is when I see Congress pass a bill doing something like sending an aid package to Gaza and/or Ukraine, only to have him refuse to sign. Which I suspect he’d actually just sign something like that through. We’ll never know for sure because two of our federal branches are too busy playing something vaguely resembling a game of football where the ball is a 50 lb boulder and everyone’s screaming that they keep subbing their toes on on it.
You mean like the senate, which biden was part of, and who helped create many of the problems we have now while he was in the senate?
PugJesusI wonder why
Rhetorical, I know, but fascists and their useful idiots.
“how do I vote for the yellow line”
By voting towards the yellow line…
Meanwhile, all candidates:
If only we could get again the guy who moved us from the red line to the blue
No, write me! I’ll go even lower.
Nah man, got to go with the red line, maybe then the blue line will learn its lesson and will be closer to the yellow line /s
nexguyShop at Target to support their goal apparently.
You mean like the blue line that clearly levels off far away from the yellow line?
Yes, that’s what ‘towards’ means.
Also check the years on the X-axis and notice the dotted vertical line at 2030. What do you think that vertical line indicates?
What does any of that have to do with the blue line clearly leveling off at the 2050 target line far above the 0 goal?
Do you really not know what the vertical line indicates?
Do you know you could just write what it means instead of asking? Then you can explain how that invalidates any of what I said. I guess you prefer dragging things out, like how democrats prefer dragging out solutions because “other guy”.
I could, but what fun would that be? It’s way more entertaining to watch someone make statements about a simple graph they don’t even understand.
Can you even take a guess at what that line indicates?
You obviously don’t know, because you have failed to explain why it matters for what I have said. Keep pleasuring yourself over your smug non-helpfulness like your democrat idols.
You got me- I really don’t know. So let’s try to figure it out together ;)
Do you think it’s because 2030 is a leap year or something about solar maxima? lol
She needs to just go away. Nobody wants to hear from her.
𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍For such a remarkably smart and charismatic person, she has an uncanny knack for presenting things in the most damaging way possible for Democrats. It’s not what she says, it’s how she says it. Like when she basically said her goal was to put most of the rural population in PA out of work. She was trying to say we need to transition to clean energy, and she could have said “by creating new, high-paying jobs in rural areas that right now depend on coal.” Or something; I’m not a speech writer. And politicians lie constantly; all she needed to assuage her conscience was a vague plan to do a feasibility study on locating wind farms in coal country, or locating solar panel manufacturing plants there, and retraining coal miners. But what she said was almost literally “we’re going to stop using coal,” which, if you’re a coal miner, sounds exactly like “I want to destroy your livelihood.”
She’d have made an excellent president; she’s quite a bit more center than Obama, but she’d still have done a fantastic job. If only she could stop putting her foot in her mouth and giving conservatives soundbites to sink her with.
You’re getting downvotes, but I’m inclined to agree with you: she tends to do the party more harm than good.
all she needed to assuage her conscience was a vague plan to do a feasibility study on locating wind farms in coal country
Hell, I would have been happy if she bothered to campaign in “flyover states” that she was weak in as much as she preached to the choir in stronghold states. And, you know, not push trump as a pied piper candidate.
To vote for the yellow line, use a brick as a ballot and [redacted] as the ballot box.
That’s the neat part…
“why would she tweet that?”
because it’s important.
this post is so embarrassing and so is that response tweet. how did you want her to present this information? or did you just want her to shut up about the very topics which you self admittedly find to be critical?
reactionary posturing. not even a meme.