Israel is killing people based on being in the same Whatsapp group

https://lemmy.world/post/14485763

Israel is killing people based on being in the same Whatsapp group - Lemmy.World

Israel aimed to spark a regional conflict to avoid facing genocide allegations. However, Iran didn’t buy into their PR tactics.

What group currently calling Jihad against Israel has not openly recieved funding from the Iranian state, going back to 1992?

The answer is none. Every group calling for Jihad and Jewish genocide in the region has received monetary support from Iran.

Why is that?

Because Israel and Iran are enemies and have been in a state of semi-war for ages?
So Iran can fund jihad against Judaism itself, and it’s Israel’s fault?

Talking about the “initial fault” in this conflict is moot. We’re at a point, where both sides can reasonably point to some events in the past and blame the other side for the conflict.

Fact is, Iran is a theocratic dictatorship and its allies are religious fanatic militias, while Israel is a liberal democracy, supported by pretty much all of The West™. Of course the expectations towards Israel regarding human rights and international law are slightly higher. And let’s be honest, what Israel is doing right now is certainly not helping calming the situation, or even making long term peace.

I don’t know if I fully buy that argument.

If somebody supports Israel, they are supporting a genocide based on perceived land needs of the Israeli people.

If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.

I don’t think we can get anywhere unless all of us as leftists acknowledge that the Jews of Israel will be in the same position the people of Palestine are in right now if we don’t thread the needle of support and guess what? We are not fucking threading that needle.

If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.

What? No significant player in Palestine is trying to do that.

If we pretend the “elected” government of Palestine is in significant than sure.
Uh... Hamas has tried to make peace with Israel before. Multiple times. Including two attempts to hand over Gaza to the PA and start peace negotiations. Israel has refused all of them.
Hamas killed all the PA in Gaza after the takeover in 2006. when did they ever attempt to give gaza back?

So first, "Hamas killed all the PA in Gaza" ignores that it was the PA trying to overturn the result of democratic elections. Not saying Hamas didn't do fucked up things either, but let's not forget how it happened.

That said, there were many efforts for reconciliation between Hamas and Fatah.

Fatah–Hamas reconciliation process - Wikipedia

nothing like throwing people off of roofs to show how democratic you are

israel being against reconcilliation does not effect hamas, they did it because they wanted to.