Jen, EnbymilfApr 15, 2024

come chat with us online, your options are:

- unencrypted faang client
- other unencrypted faang client
- other other unencrypted faang client
- encrypted faang client that is likely backdoored
- $20 profile microtransactions and constantly changing UX
- client with optional encryption and requires a phone number
- encrypted by default client that also requires a phone number
- 35 year old protocol lacking a lot of QOL features that people still use for some reason
- 25 year old protocol that nobody can agree on which extensions to use
- "unable to decrypt message"

Show threadMenel Apr 15, 2024

@Jenetrix
> 25 year old protocol that nobody can agree on which extensions to use

There were updates made to fix that, and the devs talk to each other.
https://xmpp.org/about/compliance-suites/
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Compliance Suites | XMPP - The universal messaging standard

About There is a growing number of XMPP Extension Protocols (XEPs) that provide different building blocks for XMPP-based applications. XMPP software developers are confronted with the challenge of finding the right combination of XEPs for a given …

Show threadmxkApr 16, 2024
@Menel @Jenetrix conversations works well, but is there any client with a comparable feature set/maturity for iOS and OSX by now?
Last time I checked this wasn't the case.
Show threadMenel 
@mxk
There is snikket / siskin trying too.
And it seems @Monal is getting quite good with the features. But I don't know people with iPhones and didn't test any of it myself.
Snikket is developing a Building kit for xmpp apps, to make it easier in the future to develop xmpp clients.
Apr 16, 2024 at 11:11pmWeb
Show threadChristoph EggerApr 17, 2024
@Menel
Monal was quickly getting there while I was still having apple devices (circa 2021) and seems to have taken the remaining milestones since then. Also active project with helpful people around
@mxk @Monal