Jen, EnbymilfApr 15, 2024

come chat with us online, your options are:

- unencrypted faang client
- other unencrypted faang client
- other other unencrypted faang client
- encrypted faang client that is likely backdoored
- $20 profile microtransactions and constantly changing UX
- client with optional encryption and requires a phone number
- encrypted by default client that also requires a phone number
- 35 year old protocol lacking a lot of QOL features that people still use for some reason
- 25 year old protocol that nobody can agree on which extensions to use
- "unable to decrypt message"

Show threadMenel 

@Jenetrix
> 25 year old protocol that nobody can agree on which extensions to use

There were updates made to fix that, and the devs talk to each other.
https://xmpp.org/about/compliance-suites/
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Compliance Suites | XMPP - The universal messaging standard

About There is a growing number of XMPP Extension Protocols (XEPs) that provide different building blocks for XMPP-based applications. XMPP software developers are confronted with the challenge of finding the right combination of XEPs for a given …

Apr 15, 2024 at 6:51pmWeb
Show threadDeividas PaukštÄ— Apr 16, 2024
@Menel @Jenetrix Me and my bf are self hosting the 25 year old protocol and it’s pretty good so far. Conversations, the Android client just got an update to Material 3, so it actually feels modern too. The only thing I miss from using Fluffychat is all my neofoxes 
Show threadmxkApr 16, 2024
@Menel @Jenetrix conversations works well, but is there any client with a comparable feature set/maturity for iOS and OSX by now?
Last time I checked this wasn't the case.
Show threadMenel Apr 16, 2024
@mxk
There is snikket / siskin trying too.
And it seems @Monal is getting quite good with the features. But I don't know people with iPhones and didn't test any of it myself.
Snikket is developing a Building kit for xmpp apps, to make it easier in the future to develop xmpp clients.
Show threadChristoph EggerApr 17, 2024
@Menel
Monal was quickly getting there while I was still having apple devices (circa 2021) and seems to have taken the remaining milestones since then. Also active project with helpful people around
@mxk @Monal