Mastodawn

Jen, Enbymilf Apr 15, 2024

come chat with us online, your options are:

- unencrypted faang client
- other unencrypted faang client
- other other unencrypted faang client
- encrypted faang client that is likely backdoored
- $20 profile microtransactions and constantly changing UX
- client with optional encryption and requires a phone number
- encrypted by default client that also requires a phone number
- 35 year old protocol lacking a lot of QOL features that people still use for some reason
- 25 year old protocol that nobody can agree on which extensions to use
- "unable to decrypt message"

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Kevin Karhan

Apr 15, 2024

@Jenetrix well, #XMPP just works...

Try @monocles / #MonoclesChat and @gajim / #Gajim.

They just work and do proper #E2EE!

Otherwise consider #IRC for bublic chats and #SelfHosted #Zulip for organization chats...

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ash

Apr 16, 2024

@kkarhan @Jenetrix @monocles @gajim both of those protocols are in fact in this list :p
also, my experience with XMPP (including Gajim) was incredibly flaky and the inability to reliably keep any history across a pool of changing devices was what ultimately made me quit using it tbh

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vascorsd

@darkphoenix @Jenetrix @gajim @monocles @kkarhan the experience on xmpp absolutely sucks on any client still. Just create an account on a server, login into a device like the phone and then login on another computer or even a third device as another computer and it all goes insane with broken history, failed to read messages, last read sync, random keys on the account without understanding from which device they are, needing to approve... It's insane. I kinda miss keybase that just worked.