Remember these damn things?

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Remember these damn things? - Lemmy.World

These would be much easier to do with LEDs but somehow they didn’t survive the transition.
Who’s what’s upward directional lighting? They were a horrendous design that only lit the room tip, not great for reading to crafting.

People who want the entire room lit up with fairly soft lighting?

Also youtu.be/mMDuDCXtxos?si=h9YmH9JcmjZFRuMz

It only lights the ceiling up, you still need additional lighting for anything you want to do.

And these were designed so the heat wouldn’t get trapped in the lid and the are super bright, so you couldn’t point them down. Replacing it with LED you wouldn’t need the same design considerations.

It’s using the ceiling as a diffuser to soften it. Same way that photographers don’t normally point a light directly at a subject but instead use a diffuser like this

studiobinder.com/…/what-is-a-light-diffuser-photo…

How Do Light Diffusers Work in Photo & Film?

A light diffuser is a semi-transmittant material placed in between a light source and a subject to diffuse the light as it passes through.

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Which is a horrible inefficient design and why it don’t transfer with LEDs.

It’s wild how hard you’re getting raked over the coals here.

You’re not wrong at all.

Your likely have LEDS diffused down through the shade these days.

It’s like people are ignoring the person who asked why this didn’t transfer to LEDs. Yeah I know what the light was designed for, I literally said it, and then explained why it doesn’t work for LEDs. It was mainly a design to not trap the heat in, if they could do downward facing halogens… this light probably wouldn’t ever exist.
It’s not like LEDs are noticeably dimmer compared to their tungsten/halogen counterparts. Theres no reason they wouldn’t work in this lamp and many lamps still have a very similar design.
Inverse square law. A brighter light will shine more light further away. These work since it’s such a bright point source.

Or… just hear me out. Less brightness is perfectly suitable.

Sure for “reading or crafting” you may want more direct light. But for like existing in a room? You don’t need 3000 lumens of 6000k highly directional light. One or two soft spread out sources is plenty for existing in a living room.

So is the ceiling light.

Downward facing ceiling lights don’t diffuse as well as an upward facing light bouncing off the ceiling.

If you get an Edison style LED those are generally OK in downward facing lights. But LED bulbs in general suck ass at diffusing without having something to bounce off of. An upward facing bulb on a popcorn ceiling is the perfect combo for nice diffused light in a room. There’s a reason why funky ass light fixtures and traditional light fixtures aren’t as popular.

Wait, no.

The place you’re wrong is where you’re acting like these lamps aren’t still used.

You can buy them at ilea for like 10 bucks.

I have 3 of this style and have incandescent style led bulbs in them. They work fantastic.

The directional panel leds you’ll see in modern LED fixtures are not a good fit for these, but others are.

Essential oils are a thing, people will buy anything, it doesn’t mean it’s practicable or there’s not far better options.

I own a house, I have multiple rooms.

If you choose to stop and have a more open mindset you’ll see you’re actually being downvoted for quite good reason.

Now I realize it’s because you’re being argumentative and refusing to try to see perspective you don’t understand.

Oh no, a bunch of people disagree with me… and I’m being downvoted… oh well… why do you think any of that matters?

These lights are a terrible design, sorry.

Why is this so hard to believe?

Because we own lamps and have experience that extends beyond your narrow mindset.

Take care dude, I don’t care in the slightest about your opinion anymore.

Because we own lamps and have experience that extends beyond your narrow mindset.

And people argue for essential oils as well. They are absolutely allowed that opinion.

Never cared about yours to begin with as well, so… what’s your point here?

I understand it’s objectively less efficient. But living space preferences aren’t only about objective efficiency.

I’m guessing you’re getting down voted by all of us that want light to be reflected/diffused off the ceiling, and actively own LED versions of this lamp.

These exist, they make LED versions of this. I have 3 of them because I’m too lazy to crawl into the attic and install better lighting in the ceiling itself.

I too am a fan of pouring money down the drain on inefficient and useless lighting that needs to be 3x the power of other lighting!

I too am a fan of pouring money down the drain on inefficient and useless lighting that needs to be 3x the power of other lighting!

I don’t understand this take. A single LED bulb provides plenty of light for a bedroom, and two are plenty for a larger room. Your house doesn’t have to look like a doctors office with 700 downward facing lights.

…what are you even talking about? “better” lighting is completely subjective, I am happy with what my lights do and they are already LED, so there is no more efficient way to get the effects that I prefer.

It’s ok if you prefer different things, but you’re just crapping on other people’s subjective preferences as if your preference is the only right answer.