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OldWoodFrameEveryone was very much screaming guy when Israel hit the Iranian embassy. It’s not who’s doing the bombing that’s the difference, it’s that Israel and Hamas bombing each other happens all the time, Iran and Israel bombing each other is a step level up in intensity, evidence of a growing war.
No not at all. Everyone was mostly focussed on white people getting murdered by israel during their Genocide.
More like American media was focused on white people killings.
To an American, none of these people (Israelis, Iranians, Palestinians) are white. I don’t know why it even got brought up alongside select headlines of the day.
HuntressHimboThe world central kitchen aid workers are who people are referring to as white
“Israelis” are white, and white supremacists.
Yeah not in most of America.
I’ve also not yet personally met a person that equates an American Jew with an Israeli.
In all honesty, every American Jew I know has always made fun of Israelis as a kind of “other”. Like how Americans make fun of the British. There’s a relationship there but you’re not the same.
Israelis are middle easterners, and no middle easterners are white to an American. That doesn’t mean we don’t pick sides like we did with Saddam… twice.
What the fuck did I say about american Jews?
Kapo trash have invested a lot of media and capital in the idea that they are white. The original settlers were Europeans. They do white supremacist shit like sterilizing Ethiopian Jews who come in. They’re very invested in the concept of whiteness.
Yeah my experience with American Jews and those fuckers is that reacrions range from embarrassment to outrage.
You’re the only one equating the two. Please stop. You’re going to get someone killed by an idiot who doesn’t understand the difference. What the fuck is wrong with you?
That is incorrect. Biden stated that he contacted Netanyahu after the attack and insisted on diplomatic response. There is no reason to expect this to escalate.
This is incorrect. Bidens words are empty and mean absolutely nothing. Two weeks ago:
The only other time Biden pressed Netanyahu was after the aid workers attack. He said they needed to open more corridors to aid immediately. IRA opened three corridors the next day.
There are already restrictions on the arms. They are required to be used within international law. I agree that the IRA should be held accountable for their misuse.
That is incorrect as well. Israel lied about opening a corridor
A border crossing from Israel into northern Gaza remains closed a week after Israel promised to open it for deliveries of aid, as a top US official warned that famine has begun.
And forced trucks to split their loads in half to double count them
“Trucks that go in, screened by COGAT, are typically only half-full. That is a requirement that they have put in place for screening purposes. When we count the trucks on the other side, when they have been reloaded, they are full,” he said.
So aside from israel faking numbers not much has changed.
Those goalposts heavy?
You can’t really condemn Hama’s. They’re killing Nazis. Killing Nazis is always good. If you think otherwise, you are a Nazi.
I think you are worst then nazis for celebrating the events of October 7.
The problem with that thinking is how easy it is to call someone a Nazi (or a terrorist) to legitimize killing them.
Add it to the list of words that mean nothing now.
Says the Nazi.
See now there’s the problem of your use of the word. It has lost all meaning and weight.
It doesn’t bother me in the slightest to be called that by you after seeing how you use it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There is no such thing as being a Nazi because of pointing out other people’s possible misuse or abuse of the word Nazi.
I’m starting to think that you’re hasbara making clearly derranged use of the word Naz to indirectly help Israel by diffusing the point that Zionist behaviour is the closest there is to Nazi behaviour in the modern era.
If you’re not, then try and not reduce your thinking to a slogan so as not to destroy valid arguments for yourself and others.
no but Nazis do like to accuse other people of being themselves, and live five have here. its like their favorite trick. and I’m so done being gentle about their identities. I’d like to avoid splash damage to other groups, and I think I’m reasonably careful to do that, but explain the difference between a modern Zionist (I’m aware there are historical versions of the idea that involved zero genocide, and haven’t existed since before television was a thing) and Nazi in practical terms. not in their nitpicks or specific stated goals, but their effect on the world. now explain why I should care about the feelings of either group.
yeah nothing makes hezbollah seem reasonable quite like hezbarah does. they’re using modern tactics to try and murder truth and fuzz everyone’s decision loops.
Okay what do you call inhuman genocidal racial supremacist nonsense monsters, deep into fascism, treating a list of atrocities as a to-do while exterminating a group of people who never harmed them until the genocide started for fantasy nonsense reasons, and trying to murder the very concept of truth while they do it to cover their asses and keep the heat off of their giant concentration camp, using the justification that they ‘need the space’?
They’re Nazis.
So by your logic, because I disapprove of massacring people dancing at a music festival I am now a Nazi, and you consider my murder to be a good? Is that your pitch?
I’m a Nazi, you’re a Nazi, everyone who disagrees with them is one. That’s how it works now. The word has lost all meaning.
I think if youre running a giant concentration camp and trying to murder truth, while exterminating people for fantasy nonsense reasons, and literally going down the list of atrocities, youve earned it more than most.
They were colonists dancing on stolen land. The people they stole it from killed a few of them. They probably still had the keys to the buildings from when they lived there.
I don’t really care what they were doing. You could make a moral argument if I killed them, but anything any Palestinian does to any “Israeli” is always justified as self defense, under any conditions.
Hamas is a terrorist organization that kills Palestinians, they’re funded by Iran and China, and were not even elected, they literally just took control.
You defending them only validates Isreal’s response against Palestinian in this conflict.
They’re thugs, they don’t represent Palestinian, but by giving credence to their organization, you basically okay the attacks on Palestinian civilians.
This is so factually incorrect its blatant racist propaganda.
…wikipedia.org/…/Palestinian_Legislative_Council
Hamas is a political party that electorally seized control of Gaza in in 2006 from Fatah, Yasser Arafat’s party. Fatah rebelled against Hamas in 2007 and lost. Yet Fatah is still has 45 seats to Hamas’ 72 on the PLC.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)
Nice little excerpt for you: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)#200…
The Palestinian legislative election took place on 25 January 2006 and was judged to be free and fair by international observers.[18][19] It resulted in a Hamas victory, surprising Israel and the United States, which had expected their favoured partner, Fatah, to retain power.[20] On 27 January, US President George Bush said “the landslide victory of the militant Islamic group Hamas was a rejection of the “status quo” and a repudiation of the “old guard” that had failed to provide honest government and services”.[2]
That last line from Bush is surprisingly correct. Hamas is effectively the Palestinian branch of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. Their primary tactic is actually charity work by feeding the abundant poor people of Gaza and radicalizing them from there.
Nothing you said conflicted with any of my points, lol
and were not even elected, they literally just took control
The Palestinian legislative election took place on 25 January 2006 and was judged to be free and fair by international observers.[18][19] It resulted in a Hamas victory
They’re thugs, they don’t represent Palestinian, but by giving credence to their organization
Literally the most popular political party in the West Bank and Gaza.
A terrorist organization that used political violence and only a small portion of the population to gain power is not really an election.
used political violence and only a small portion of the population to gain power
Made up bullshit that I literally just disproved with George Fucking Bush agreeing that they won the election fair in square.
Terrorist organization
They said the same thing about the ANC and Nelson Mandela. Do you know where South Africa stands on this issue?
So they used violence against Palestinian people and only accepted a small portion of the vote, but because Bush said it was okay, that means it’s okay.
Okay then
So they used violence against Palestinian people
What the fuck are you even referring to? Putting down the Fatah coup?
and only accepted a small portion of the vote
Again, what are you referring to? The election was internationally accepted as free and fair.
Right, Bush said so
The entire international community said so. Bush is just an example of how unanimous it was.
Cite something if you’re going to make any more claims or fuck off.
The audacity to use Bush as a source and then tell me to cite something, lol.
Please reread the thread: programming.dev/comment/9241141
Reading through your comment history you’re clearly a troll.
You just call anyone a troll for calling you out, lol
Do you believe in justified massacres more broadly too? Would Sahrawis slaughtering Moroccan settlers or Kypriots killing Turkish settlers also be good things?
Mate, get it to your fucking head, a colonized people killing their colonizers IS ALWAYS BASED. now I know you fucking crackers in the west have an issue with that because almost the entirety of your modern civilization is based on colonialism and slavery, but you shouldn’t cry when you’re getting the business side of the gun aimed at you after LITERALLY TRYING TO STEAL LAND.
I think theres an active ongoing genocide, and the lives of the inhuman monsters doing it cannot be a concern if you want it to stop.
everything else has been tried and tried and tried. the only fix left is killing them until they can’t. not until they promise to stop; they’ve shown their promises are worth less than nothing. until they can’t. until there are no more veteran or military age “Israelis” who aren’t crippled left to continue the genocide.
and then we, as a fucking world, need to do something token to making it up to the Palestinian people. start with returning every inch of their land, building them all the infrastructure bombs we bought have destroyed over the years, offering them free educations in every university in the world, and doing whatever the PTSD treatment equivalent of the fucking Berlin airlift is.
Who is the arbiter of when there is an “active ongoing genocide”? Who do you trust with the authority to kill and cripple entire populations? What happens when the Israelis are defenseless and the Palestinians come for revenge? Will that be a genocide? Should they be killed and crippled too?
prickly question, big question, but inot revevent here: in this case, you dont need an arbiter; they all brag about doing it. they’re not even hiding it anymore. lookupany Zionist shutzstaffel butcher’s social media, you’ll see video evidence, posted in public by the guilty party. their command structure says it. their prime minister says it. its in the songs they teach their vile spawn.
the “Israeli” needs to be killed or crippled to stop them from killing Palestinians. at the end, there must be no such thing as an “Israeli”.
what the Palestinians do to any “Israeli”, or what they decide to do to these masses of non-persons on their land his nice it’s returned is up to them, and I can make no moral judgment.
they could, as many likely will, jack themselves off about forgiveness, and make an effort to raise the remainder or ship them off to international relatives or something. I think that would be foolish, but its not my place to say.
they cod shackle them in cages and become the go to global spot for organ transplants, and I’d applaud their practicality.
they could dig a giant hole, and put every last one of them there, or grind them up for fucking fertilizer, and finally make that bullshit about ‘making the desert bloom’ ever so slightly true.
the point is I dont care. once you surrender your humanity, it is gone. you no longer count as human. the effort to kill you may not be worth it, but it can never again be a moral consideration.
Have you spared any thoughts to how easy it would be to swap “Israelis” and Palestinians in your rant?
yeah you’d just have to strip out all the justification and substance and reasons why.
If by a miracle the conflict calms down and then ends, how long will Israelis remain sub-human scum who deserve to be ground up into paste?
oh shit, we’re grinding them into paste now?
well forever then, whether they deserve it or not; theres a global paste shortage. the needs of the many; you understand.
The music festival bit again lmfao
I can prove with the videos how Hamas didn’t start that, but instead let me tell you that the philosophical stance here is that if you go to a place where active genocide is happening, and there is a literal concentration camp merely kilometers from you, it is exactly the same as propping up a music festival in Auschwitz or Nazi’s death camps in Poland.
As such, I stand that those people are fucking scum and shouldn’t be cried for. Fuck them