What's gonna happen to the grid when we all switch to EVs?

I dunno, Greg. You didn't seem all that concerned about the grid when you started crypto mining and using AI to write your college essays.

@TheBierFrau personally I wouldn't switch until I had solar PV panels on my house - which I have now.
@TheBierFrau someone calculated that you could drive a Tesla something like 700,000 miles with the minimum amount of electricity it takes to mine a single bit coin.
@cswalker21 @TheBierFrau reminds me of that one who built bit coin rigs into the trunk and kept occupying recharge station 🤪
@bekopharm @cswalker21 @TheBierFrau Just make a mining rig with a ccs2 connector and plug it in directly.
@TheBierFrau

Two way chargers everywhere turning cars into hyper local load leveling and resiliency nodes.

@TheBierFrau There is this thing called "Solar Energy" Greg.

Combining solar energy with EVs creates many benefits, and as more solar energy and EVs join the electric grid, the U.S. Department of Energy Solar Energy Technology Office (SETO) works to understand how solar energy, in tandem with EVs, helps meet clean energy goals.

@DebErupts @TheBierFrau

Of course, Greg is also against renewable energy systems. Not because he *wants* us to keep burning fossil fields, but because clean energy options are all ugly. Or unreliable. Or too expensive. Or they kill birds. Something.

@DebErupts @TheBierFrau dunno what's this Greg story about, but EVs and "clean" energy won't solve anything. In fact (combustion engine) cars are hardly the worst problem ("modern" construction (cement), agriculture, and planes all pollute more). "Clean" energy exacerbates existing problems (e.g., mining, pollution inequality, more trash due to non-recyclability) and EVs create new ones (e.g., non-drivers paying for fucking EV infrastructure).

@o_andras @TheBierFrau Carbon capture and storage (CCS) hopefully will take steel close to being carbon neutral and cement to becoming a carbon sink. In 2022, Congress enacted the Inflation Reduction Act, which provided the largest support for carbon capture to date. #TaxTheRich

Chart below shows the biggest CO2 emitters by fuel or industry type.

@DebErupts @TheBierFrau CO₂, and even CO₂e, is only part of the picture. Yes, CO₂e pollution is bad, but there are a lot more ways to pollute. That if we reach "net zero" then all our problems will be solved, is a delusion!
@o_andras @TheBierFrau I understand the seriousness of our situation and that net zero will probably not happen in time or even at all, but my nature is to have faith, to not give up. #ClimateAction
@DebErupts @TheBierFrau That graph is not very clear. Emissions of production, use, or both? CO₂ or CO₂e? I based my comment on a table on p55 of Bill Gates' "How to Avoid a Climate Disaster". Unfortunately it's one of the tables/graphs with no source, and I don't know of any better sources either... This table has: Producing materials (cement, metals, plastics) (31%); Producing electricity (27%); Food (plants & animals) (19%); Transportation (16%); Heating & cooling, refrigeration (7%).
@TheBierFrau it's funny when folks handwring about this stuff when grid engineers are just like "it's fine, we've been managing expanding demand and ensuring the necessary generation capacity for the past century, it's literally what we do".

@gsuberland @TheBierFrau

Very much this.
Greg wasn't bothered when the typical house size doubled over the last 50 years.

Nor when central air conditioning became common place.

Nor when the typical residential service went from 100A to 200A to compensate for all the additional loads a modern house has.

Greg is very concerned about heat pumps though, and has caught the vapours at the very mention of EVs.

@TheBierFrau a lot of people have expressed a distinct lack of concern over the grid when it come a to funding infrastructure improvements too. I admit that I would like to see more work on stability, eedundancy, and "consumer" sourced electricity supply.
@TheBierFrau why does their faith in markets collapse the moment it produces something they don’t like (tm)?

@TheBierFrau Is Greg real? He sounds like a character out of Tron. He tried to imagine ships, motorcycles. And then one day he got out...

It's well known by EV skeptics that EVs help with balancing the grid. Criticism tends to focus on the cost of EVs, the environmental impact of their construction, their weight (microplastics from tire wear) and the logistical challenges around battery life and charging stations.

@TheBierFrau LOL. What a great comeback. Thanks!
@TheBierFrau by the time we reach that point, greg, we're gonna be well into the process of phasing out cars (ICE or otherwise) wherever possible. starting with yours, of course, greg

@TheBierFrau “How are we gonna distribute gasoline for all these ICE vehicles!?”

- Greg, 1901