Senior Citizen KaneApr 10, 2024
Charlotte Clymer
There is no middle ground on the basic right to abortion care. Either you believe women should control their own bodies, or you believe the government should control women's bodies. That's it. Anti-choice hypocrites want us to believe it's murky, but it's not. It's that simple.
Apr 10, 2024 at 12:05pmWeb
Show threadLocksmithApr 10, 2024
@charlotteclymer I have two main beliefs about abortion care.
One is spiritual. The second one is that, as a man, I have no say; the woman is the sole decider on this matter.
Show threadBen AvelingApr 10, 2024
@charlotteclymer You wouldn't put any upper limit?
Show threadAriaflameApr 10, 2024
@BenAveling @charlotteclymer No need to. The only reason pregnant people would wait until the foetus was viable is if the law stopped them from getting it earlier due to delays, or if there is risk to the health of the mother or the foetus is nonviable anyway. You don't penalise lots of people to prevent something that doesn't happen.
Show threadBen AvelingApr 10, 2024
@ariaflame @charlotteclymer also because personal circumstances change, or they discover a baby is disabled, or even just the wrong gender.
Show threadLexiGirlApr 10, 2024
@BenAveling @charlotteclymer a women carrying a baby to 8 or 9 months has set up the nursery, assembled the crib and bought the pram. They are not waking up at 9 months and saying ‘actually, I’ve changed my mind’.
Show threadBen AvelingApr 10, 2024
@charlotteclymer @LexiGirl ppl have been known to give birth and then smother the newborn. And ppl can and do have abortions right up to the current limit of 2nd trimester. That’s getting very close to the point at which a premature baby can survive.
Show threadMark T. TomczakApr 10, 2024

@charlotteclymer Precisely.

And once the precedent is established that the government controls women's bodies, reproduction for the good of society is a logical next step.

Show threadSoozcatApr 10, 2024
@mark @charlotteclymer I've said it elsewhere, but it bears repeating: we need to talk more about how the destruction of Roe plays into the hands of white supremacists. The kind of people who believe in the "Great Replacement theory" and who literally want to force white women to have more babies because DEMOGRAPHICS ÜBER ALLES, I guess
Show threadBamboozerApr 10, 2024
@charlotteclymer I could not agree more, bodily autonomy will be a big deal going forward. It is a woman's body, not some politicians and certainly not some church.
Show threadCarolleisaApr 10, 2024
@charlotteclymer MAGA thugs only want *choice when it punishes others by taking away rights: eg school choice, *pro life, antivaccine, right to work, religious rights
Show threadErik HaugenApr 10, 2024
@carolleisa @charlotteclymer I'm curious how you see school choice as taking away rights. (For the others I can probably guess the circuitous argument.)
Show threadCarolleisaApr 11, 2024
@ech @charlotteclymer Use of term school choice refers to post Brown v Board when separate but equal was partially overturned. Public funds started transfer to religious n private corporate schools. It really wasn’t so much choice as a covert way to bolster mostly white schools n control content. Busing later became part of the chaos in the ‘80s. City white kids in lottery had choice of corporate backed schools n tax money flowed back to suburban schools where city blacks could attend.
Show threadCarolleisaApr 11, 2024
@ech @charlotteclymer This btw was the hs busing system for Milwaukee area kids. Another glitch was troublemakers opted entering the lottery late so they all got in the same city school. Our city HS was only a few blocks away but my kids had to travel an hour from 6 am to separate schools in different parts of the city at first. They never forgave me. Few families were happy. As a suburban news editor I was threatened w/ a cross to burn on my head bc they blamed me for the whole thing.
Show threadErik HaugenApr 11, 2024
@carolleisa @charlotteclymer an hour away? these sound like problems that would go away with school choice?
Show threadCarolleisaApr 11, 2024
@ech @charlotteclymer one reason that it was intolerable and didn’t work. A nightmare.
Anyway *Choice was fiction. Kids wanted to stay in their neighborhoods but instead of working with adults on opening up the neighborhoods the the powers thought making the kids do all the work to desegregate was the way to a better future. It wasn’t at least for Milw.
Show threadOregon Wine WomanApr 10, 2024
@charlotteclymer Amen!
Show threadKrazyKatApr 10, 2024
@charlotteclymer Concur.
Show threadSharon McCarthyApr 10, 2024
@charlotteclymer So good to see you here:). Welcome!
Show threadBrilliantIdiotApr 10, 2024

@charlotteclymer

Yep.

Either to government can force you to give a kidney to someone who needs it, or you have the right to refuse.

Politicians try to obfuscate this fundamental issue with shit like "When does life begin?", religious posturing, and sexual shaming.

But this is the very core of the issue. If I have a kid, and that kid's organs fail, does the state have a right to force me to give up parts of my own body to keep my kid alive?

Answer Key:
"No" = Pro-choice
"Yes" = Anti-choice