Videos show Chicago police fired nearly 100 shots over 41 seconds during fatal traffic stop

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Videos show Chicago police fired nearly 100 shots over 41 seconds during fatal traffic stop - Lemmy.ca

Plainclothes Chicago police officers fired nearly 100 gunshots over 41 seconds during a traffic stop that left one man dead and one officer injured, according to graphic video footage a police oversight agency released Tuesday. Five officers from a tactical unit who were in an unmarked police vehicle surrounded an SUV last month driven by Dexter Reed, allegedly for failing to wear a seatbelt. Video shows the 26-year-old Black man briefly lowering a window and then raising it and refusing to exit the vehicle as more officers arrived, yelled commands and drew weapons.

100 shots from five cops is …. Actually fairly reserved.

20 rounds a piece, a Glock 19 9mm, with the 19 round mag… that could easily have been dumped inside of 15-20 seconds, faster if they didn’t care to aim.

Cops are trained, that when they start shooting they don’t stop shooting until either the target hits the pavement or makes it very obvious they’re no longer a threat. (Which, is why you see cops dump full mags into kids.) there is no “wing ‘em and they’ll give up.”

Once a cop decides to use lethal force… its over.

I have no idea of the particulars- and I’m making assumption that the cops murdered another kid. But that headline is not nearly as excessive as they want you to believe. (Though “cops shot kid” should get you angry!)

Cops are trained, that when they start shooting they don’t stop shooting until either the target hits the pavement or makes it very obvious they’re no longer a threat. (Which, is why you see cops dump full mags into kids.) there is no “wing ‘em and they’ll give up.”

You’re saying that like it’s the way they should be trained.

The very fact that they are shooting children over and over again doesn’t suggest to you that maybe this is the wrong sort of training?

That does make some sense, once the decision to use lethal force has been made, you use it until it has worked. Police do carry nonlethal weapons as well.
There’s No Such Thing as a 'Non-Lethal' Weapon

Tasers, pepper spray, and other "non-lethal" or "less lethal" devices still have the potential to cripple or kill, and we need to recognize that.

What would you prefer, they asked politely, and gave up when people declined?

You’re right. There’s no middle ground between asking someone politely and giving up when they decline and emptying an entire clip into their chest.

No middle ground at all.

Maybe some type of weapon that, if used correctly, can immobilise or incapacitate someone without doing any lasting harm?

Ah yes, this imaginary weapon that will always be used correctly and never on anyone with a heart condition or anything like that.

I don’t know how cops even survived before “non-lethal” weapons were invented. I guess they just shot every criminal every time. Either that, or it was just cop murder constantly. I don’t even know how there were any cops.

They hit people with sticks, that’s how.
You mean they had to get close to a criminal? They had to actually be brave and take risks?

Police still do carry batons, by the way. It’s much easier to do that when the other guy doesn’t have a weapon, of course.

I’m honestly not sure what your point is here, police can and do use pepper spray and tasers quite often, but not when the person they’re approaching is likely to have a firearm.

Seems to me they use their guns a lot of times when the other guy doesn’t have a firearm…
The guy in the video did.
Great, now how about all the other times?