Videos show Chicago police fired nearly 100 shots over 41 seconds during fatal traffic stop

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Plainclothes Chicago police officers fired nearly 100 gunshots over 41 seconds during a traffic stop that left one man dead and one officer injured, according to graphic video footage a police oversight agency released Tuesday. Five officers from a tactical unit who were in an unmarked police vehicle surrounded an SUV last month driven by Dexter Reed, allegedly for failing to wear a seatbelt. Video shows the 26-year-old Black man briefly lowering a window and then raising it and refusing to exit the vehicle as more officers arrived, yelled commands and drew weapons.

100 shots from five cops is …. Actually fairly reserved.

20 rounds a piece, a Glock 19 9mm, with the 19 round mag… that could easily have been dumped inside of 15-20 seconds, faster if they didn’t care to aim.

Cops are trained, that when they start shooting they don’t stop shooting until either the target hits the pavement or makes it very obvious they’re no longer a threat. (Which, is why you see cops dump full mags into kids.) there is no “wing ‘em and they’ll give up.”

Once a cop decides to use lethal force… its over.

I have no idea of the particulars- and I’m making assumption that the cops murdered another kid. But that headline is not nearly as excessive as they want you to believe. (Though “cops shot kid” should get you angry!)

100 shots from five cops is …. Actually fairly reserved.

Not when they have no valid cause to fire even once FFs!

20 rounds a piece, a Glock 19 9mm, with the 19 round mag… that could easily have been dumped inside of 15-20 seconds, faster if they didn’t care to aim.

Sø you’re saying that, at least some of them emptied their mag and then RELOADED to keep shooting for no good reason? That’s what you call fucking RESERVED??

Cops are trained, that when they start shooting they don’t stop shooting until either the target hits the pavement

First of all, that’s horrible. That’s murder.

Second of all, it’s pretty damn hard to “hit the pavement” when you’re seated inside a car trying in vain to not be murdered!

or makes it very obvious they’re no longer a threat

Barricading yourself inside his car unarmed wasn’t obvious enough?

not nearly as excessive as they want you to believe

It’s plenty fucking excessive and even WITH your disclaimers at the end, you’re still minimizing absolutely insane behavior and dismissing it as “reserved”. That’s fucked up and you should probably reevaluate some things…

First of all, you should probably watch the video in the article. Or any of the other videos that came out.

Of special note is the cop at the front passenger window getting shot. those were the first shots fired. You, uh, sure, you want to insist he was “unarmed”? or perhaps you’re suggesting the cop buddies just didn’t like him?

in the cbs segment on it… the ex-cop-talking head makes an excellent point: the pretext for stopping was total bullshit. For one, those windows are heavy tint. you can’t see inside. For another, special tactics teams are not used for “routine traffic stops”. unless it’s an exceedingly slow day. (and it’s chicago. no such thing as a slow day.)

it doesn’t pass the bullshit test. but in the videos released of the shooting… cops got shot first. I’m surprised they didn’t turn the truck into scrap. And yes. that’s fucked up.

Why did traffic stop, shootout with Chicago Police killed Dexter Reed escalate so rapidly?

Why did shootout with Chicago Police killed Dexter Reed escalate so rapidly?

CBS Chicago

First of all, you should probably watch the video in the article. Or any of the other videos that came out.

You mean the ones carefully curated by the cops to make them come off as well as possible? No thanks. I never watched the campaign videos of Joe Arpaio or Eric Adams and I’m not going to start watching pro-cop propaganda now.

Of special note is the cop at the front passenger window getting shot. those were the first shots fired. You, uh, sure, you want to insist he was “unarmed”? or perhaps you’re suggesting the cop buddies just didn’t like him?

No evidence of where that sho came from. Could easily be a cop with bad aim, yes. I’m not going to give the benefit of the doubt to the murder victim, not the murderers.

it doesn’t pass the bullshit test. but

“I’m not trying to defend murderers, BUT…” 🙄

So you’re full of shit spouting your own propaganda. Okay.

Have a nice life living in a fairy tail where the only monsters are cops.

So you’re full of shit spouting your own propaganda. Okay.

Nope. Just not automatically trusting the story of cops because I’m not an idiot.

Have a nice life living in a fairy tail where the only monsters are cops.

Have a nice life living in a fairy tale where cops aren’t monsters and haven’t proven themselves as inherently untrustworthy as the IDF, Newsmax or Russia Today.

I think I’ve been very clear about my skepticism.

I’m not trusting the cops for shit. Watch the video. If you want skip the talking heads, go to twenty-five seconds in the video on this article. That’s just before the first shots start. You see a cop get shot.

Those were the first shots fired.

Is it curated? Probably. Their pretext is full of shit, no question.

You see a cop get shot.

But not who fires the shot. Could be another cop. Could be a randomly passing lunatic. Could be Rahm Emanuel or Chicago Bears punter Trenton Gill for all we know.

You’re acting like a bullet hitting a cop is in itself incontrovertible evidence that their victim shot first. It’s not.

And you’re acting like it’s not evidence at all.

I accept there’s missing information here. Things we don’t know. A lot of this is going to depend heavily on the real reason the cops targeted him. I doubt very much either of us will really know. And I’m very confident they didn’t pick a random black guy.

You seem incapable or unwilling to doubt the narrative you’ve already decided is the Truth™️.

As for who fired the first shot, the cops didn’t go active until after the cop gets shot. The more or less full body cam videos of every cop Are released there. Including the cop that gets shot (arm/wrist. You can see the blood on his left hand.)

2024-0003052 - Civilian Office of Police Accountability

Subject: Dexter Reed, Jr. This post includes all relevant video, audio, and Chicago Police Department records in COPA’s possession that are required to be released related to the use of …

Civilian Office of Police Accountability

And you’re acting like it’s not evidence at all.

Not of anyone in the car shooting, like you keep pretending it is.

Rule number one of everything cops release to the public: if there’s anything significant missing, it’s extremely likely that it’s missing on purpose because it contradicts their narrative.

Does Trenton Gill even have an alibi? 😛

real reason the cops targeted him.

Because they’re trigger happy and murdering people makes them feel powerful, probably.

I’m very confident they didn’t pick a random black guy.

Proving once again that you’ve learned nothing from previous similar incidents.

You seem incapable or unwilling to doubt the narrative you’ve already decided is the Truth™️.

Says the one who trusts cops without evidence 🙄

the cops didn’t go active until after the cop gets shot.

According to cops who have proven no such thing.

And again, I never said I don’t believe that the cop got shot. I just won’t take a notoriously untruthful and manipulative group of people at their word on WHO shot him.