girlfreddyApr 10, 2024

Videos show Chicago police fired nearly 100 shots over 41 seconds during fatal traffic stop

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Videos show Chicago police fired nearly 100 shots over 41 seconds during fatal traffic stop - Lemmy.ca

Plainclothes Chicago police officers fired nearly 100 gunshots over 41 seconds during a traffic stop that left one man dead and one officer injured, according to graphic video footage a police oversight agency released Tuesday. Five officers from a tactical unit who were in an unmarked police vehicle surrounded an SUV last month driven by Dexter Reed, allegedly for failing to wear a seatbelt. Video shows the 26-year-old Black man briefly lowering a window and then raising it and refusing to exit the vehicle as more officers arrived, yelled commands and drew weapons.

Show threadFuglyDuckApr 10, 2024

100 shots from five cops is …. Actually fairly reserved.

20 rounds a piece, a Glock 19 9mm, with the 19 round mag… that could easily have been dumped inside of 15-20 seconds, faster if they didn’t care to aim.

Cops are trained, that when they start shooting they don’t stop shooting until either the target hits the pavement or makes it very obvious they’re no longer a threat. (Which, is why you see cops dump full mags into kids.) there is no “wing ‘em and they’ll give up.”

Once a cop decides to use lethal force… its over.

I have no idea of the particulars- and I’m making assumption that the cops murdered another kid. But that headline is not nearly as excessive as they want you to believe. (Though “cops shot kid” should get you angry!)

Show threadFlying SquidApr 10, 2024

Cops are trained, that when they start shooting they don’t stop shooting until either the target hits the pavement or makes it very obvious they’re no longer a threat. (Which, is why you see cops dump full mags into kids.) there is no “wing ‘em and they’ll give up.”

You’re saying that like it’s the way they should be trained.

The very fact that they are shooting children over and over again doesn’t suggest to you that maybe this is the wrong sort of training?

Show threadFuglyDuck

I ain’t defending it.

I completely agree with your assessment that they absolutely need better training- one of the things is spending increased focused on deescalation and soft skills- time-wise,

one unfortunate reality is there are people who would fire out of that car at cops. looking into it it’s at least plausible that the guy shot first. Not … that I trust the narrative. Dirty cops get protection from the others. who knows who shot first.

all I was trying to point out is that, a hundred rounds fired by five cops, isn’t actually all that much.

Apr 10, 2024 at 10:28amWeb
Show threadIlovethebombApr 10, 2024
You can see glass blow out from the right hand side of the vehicle before the body cam officer starts shooting, it definitely looks like the vehicle occupant fired first.
Show threadFuglyDuckApr 10, 2024

Yeah.

nsfw warning, but here’s the COPA release.

They have every body camera involved in it;starting from before they get out of the car (but no audio until they do.)

It’s pretty clear that Reed shot first.

Their pretext for pulling him over doesn’t make sense, though. One, all the windows were tinted, and it’s special tactics cops- there’s a lot of maybes here but you don’t send these guys for routine traffic stops.

2024-0003052 - Civilian Office of Police Accountability

Subject: Dexter Reed, Jr. This post includes all relevant video, audio, and Chicago Police Department records in COPA’s possession that are required to be released related to the use of …

Civilian Office of Police Accountability
Show threadIlovethebombApr 10, 2024
Going by the way they approached the vehicle, they knew something was likely to happen.