Fat Tony

Which movies have aged like fine wine? (either in their message or cinematography)

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Which movies have aged like fine wine? (either in their message or cinematography) - Lemmy.World

I recently saw ‘Don’t Look Now’ (1973). Good picture, a little slow perhaps by today’s standards but worthy of any movie enjoyer’s time! So this movie was shot in Venice. Venice itself being an already beautiful spot to film even today. The way we get to look in a time capsule of Venice in the 70s makes the movie that much better! People in the 70s could not in fact appreciate it the same way we do now. Concurrently we also can’t do it for today’s movies. Some movies can only be truly appreciated over time is what I believe. This matter can be expressed in both the movie’s message or, as I did, its cinematography. Hence my question now to you.

Apr 9, 2024 at 5:58pmWeb
Show threadstanleytweedleApr 9, 2024

Nearly everything Terry Gilliam made has aged very well for me. He creates strange and interesting visual worlds that never really seem dated because they all sort of exist in their own time-space.

Also anything Jim Henson company touches seems to be immortal. Dark Crystal and Labyrinth are masterpieces.

And to a lesser degree Don Coscarelli has made some pretty timeless films. Beastmaster is still very watchable.

Show threadGeekyOnionApr 10, 2024
Gah! Now I need to go watch Dark Crystal again. That’s such a good movie, and I recently watched Labyrinth. I’ll cue it up, and then stick Brazil right behind.
Show threadstanleytweedleApr 10, 2024
Have you seen the Netflix Dark Crystal series? If not do yourself a favor- it’s great.
Show threadGeekyOnionApr 10, 2024
I hadn’t, but I was nervous given how many of the reboots and extension series attempts seemed to miss the mark. Maybe I should give it a try, anyway.
Show threadConfused_EmusApr 10, 2024
Loved that series. The only downside is it’s kind of depressing because, given that it’s set before the movie, you know how it ultimately has to end for the gelflings.
Show threadCyclistApr 11, 2024
I was going to mention Brazil because it’s one of the great distopian films. And I don’t know how to describe 12 Monkeys, it’s just really good.
Show threadCall me Lenny/LeniApr 9, 2024
Demolition Man, they even predicted exactly how covid would work and when.
Demolition Man - The Three Seashells

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Show threadRhynoplazApr 10, 2024
I still don’t know how to use the three seashells. 😞
Show threadCall me Lenny/LeniApr 10, 2024
Although it was most likely for humor, if I had to guess how it would work in their world, it’s probably akin to silverware, where each shell is used for a different poop texture.
Show threadRhynoplazApr 10, 2024

Excuse me, could you pass a #2 seashell under the stall?

(Nightmarish bowel sounds)

Uhh, better make it a #3.

Show threadscallopedllamaApr 9, 2024

The Back to the Future films

The Goonies

Show threadChee_KoalaApr 9, 2024
I Showed the Goonies to a couple of young teens in my fam and they thought it was boring and weird… :( . Sucks to be them, missing out on this gem of a movie!
Show threadbitwabaApr 9, 2024
I wonder if young teens is too late? I think 8-10 is the prime range for that movie.
Show threadChee_KoalaApr 9, 2024
Excellent point! A new batch is brewing 2-4 right now, i’ll try again in a year or 6 😊
Show threadchbartsApr 9, 2024

@FatTony

Citizen Kane is still a wonderful film with well-drawn characters, great cinematography, and a relevant message: If you have a hole in your psyche, wealth alone won't fill it.

Show threadamniotic druidApr 9, 2024

I’m going to tweak the OP a little bit to drop my movie unpopular opinion that I haven’t gotten to share here and say:

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is a damn fine, and more importantly, fun, addition the the franchise that deserves maybe a tenth of the hate it gets online. It’s pulpy, it’s cheesy, the writing swings between passable and unbelievable, and the plot is all of the place, both in tone and in narrative, but you know what: SO ARE ALL THE INDIANA JONES MOVIES!

I honestly think that if that vine swinging scene never left the editing bay that movie would be looked back on a lot better.

Show threadChee_KoalaApr 9, 2024
I envy your opinion and sadly cannot share it. It’s ok, I’ll just love the first three and take it as it comes.
Show threaddudinaxApr 10, 2024
Contrary to popular opinion, the infamous fridge scene is good. The second half of the movie is forgettable.
Show threadBlackmistApr 10, 2024

Yeah, no.

I’ll defend the fifth one, even if the opening feels like you’re watching somebody play a Naughty Dog Indiana Jones game, but not the fourth.

The fucking CGI gopher alone is enough, let alone the swinging with the monkeys bit or the fridge nuke. And even if you take all that out, it’s just not very good.

1 > 3 > 2 > 5 >>> 4

Show threadYrtApr 9, 2024
I saw Alien 1 just a couple of weeks ago for the first time and I was amazed how good it still looked. The design of the spaceship and the alien itself still looked amazing in 4k on an OLED TV. And also the story still seemed like a fresh idea. Of course there are moments with stupid acting people, but all in all the decisions made felt plausible and logical, not the normal stupid horror movie group. And also the story twist came (for me) as a real surprise and not like a thing you knew after the first 5min. (And I’m also surprised that after all these years it’s still a surprise, cause everybody knows the alien but not the story of the first movie?)
Show threadMonkderDritteApr 10, 2024
Alieb 1 is in 4k?
Show threadConfused_EmusApr 10, 2024
Yes, I think it was the 40th Anniversary release. Aliens is also supposed to be getting a 4K release soon.
Show threaddustyDataApr 11, 2024
Film is actually capable of holding way more detail than 4k. This is the crux of complaints when cinema projectors started to change from film to digital. I love it when old films get remastered in ultra high definition. It makes you realize that what the original audiences actually saw was much more high quality than what we associate with old films, like grain, burn spots, blur and stretching distortion, etc.
Show threadMonkderDritteApr 12, 2024
Though often it was limited by grain size, rarely much more than hd quality.
Show threadAliceApr 9, 2024
The mummy
Show threadmechoman444Apr 10, 2024
People hate this movie. I’m not entirely sure why because it was quite a good movie.
Show threadTheCannonballApr 10, 2024
People hate the remake. The original is priceless.
Show threadmechoman444Apr 10, 2024
If he was talking about the original then yes. I suppose in comparison the 1999 one was worse.
Show threadTheCannonballApr 10, 2024

Sir, you have taken my words and misconstrued them to make me appear foolowh. To that I say… Touché.

So let’s get extremely technical and a little petty.

…

If we only count movies with the title “The Mummy” then we have:

The Mummy (1911) The Mummy (1932) The Mummy (1959) The Mummy (1999) The Mummy (2017)

I propose that because you immediately suggested that the “remake” I was referring to was the 1999 film and was immediately precided by the “original” then you are MISTAKEN!!!

That would mean that you believed the 3rd movie in this list was actually the “original”. How utterly foolish of you. I laugh at your expense. Ha ha ha.

…

But seriously, I grew up loving the 1999 Mummy movie and I refuse to see the newest one.

Show threadVindictiveJudgeApr 10, 2024
I saw it. You’re not missing anything.
Show threadmechoman444Apr 10, 2024
It wasn’t the worst movie and some of the effects were quite good but aside from my one watch through I’ll probably never intentionally decide to watch it again.
Show threaddotslashmeApr 9, 2024
The movie It’s a Wonderful Life still holds up pretty well.
Show threadHobbitFoot Apr 9, 2024
So does Casablanca.
Show threadcallouscomicApr 10, 2024

This is a very interesting situation.

Show threadGeekyOnionApr 10, 2024
It still is hard to save up $5000.
Show threadChee_KoalaApr 9, 2024
Just re-watched Jumanji 1995 and I thought it held up mighty fine! Some of the CGI is lighted a bit flat, the monkeys specifically (and they get some real screen time too so you can judge extra harshly and at your leisure, but all of the perfomances are at least good and most are great or exceptional. I Also love the plot idea and it’s executed really well.
Show threadjeffwApr 9, 2024
Cabinet of Dr Caligari. Peak Expressionist cinema with a solid story
Show threadandyburkeApr 9, 2024

Sneakers

Maybe more relevant today than it was then.

Cosmo was right.

Show threadReallyZenApr 9, 2024
12 angry men is like a Life Pro Trick sitting unused since 1957
Show threadbrygphilomenaApr 10, 2024
This is a fantastic film. I love it. Hitchcock’s Lifeboat is another great film that only has a single setting.
Lifeboat (1944 film) - Wikipedia

Show threadmerari42Apr 10, 2024
It aged so well because the scene and camera work are relatively simple but the writing and acting are absolutely stellar.
Show thread🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆Apr 9, 2024
Every day, Idiocracy is getting further from absurd comedy and closer to documentary.
Show threadHobbitFoot Apr 9, 2024
Welcome to Costco. I love you.
Show threadsomnuzApr 9, 2024

Bunny Lake Is Missing (1965) — hard to say anything without spoiling the plot

Blair Witch Project (1999) — I just admire how great idea / concept extended beyond the movie itself. No-one can ever watch it again for a first time during ‘99 but it is iconic and great as a case study of having almost no budget and making something really impactful / special

Her (2013) — this one is my answer for the same question but asked in 2061…

Show threadBoozillaApr 9, 2024
Appreciate the love for BWP. I really enjoyed it when it came out. My friends/family all made fun of me, parroting the usual criticisms.
Show threadsomnuzApr 9, 2024

Oh! I didn’t see it when it came out. I saw it around 2002 — and let’s just underline one thing here, some people in my family can really pull proper pranks. With this movie (all this is not happening in the US) my cousin made the whole introduction for me and others “this movie is not actually a movie, it was not played in many cinemas, it was banned almost instantly, you can not buy it or rent it, I ordered this tape via a magazine about unresolved police investigations from around the world and this is just a montage of what was found there… I saw it only once, it is pretty disturbing, weird. I don’t believe in anything supernatural but fuck, this movie makes me question some things now…” — like… come on! I heard and read so many different versions of this story from others and their experiences almost always boiled down to the same conclusion for me, the movie was just a possibility to make everything around the movie so much more impactful than the movie in itself, urban legend for creating more urban legends. Next level sneaky move. On the other hand, “Yeah I saw it, it’s all fake and made up, someone explained to me how it’s all a hoax, really nothing special, stupid, boring and not scary at all” — how circumstances can change everything.

The other, similar one was during “The Ring” where my uncle was calling from his cellphone on their home landline every time the phone rang in the movie. They were so boggled about it to the point where they were rewinding the movie to test it… They didn’t finish it. One of family legends was born on that night…

Show threadpdxfedApr 10, 2024
I saw Her and thought it was an instant classic but was floored people I recommended it to thought it was dark or unrealistic or other things. It was almost contemporary when it came out!
Show threadBowserBasherApr 9, 2024
Jurassic Park. Those dinos beat many of today’s CGI films. Mixed in with the animatronic ones they just blend in so well. The story is simple (to quote Dr Malcolm) God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs. There are so many quotable lines, as shown just now, and the music is pretty unforgettable too.
Show threadforgotaboutlayeApr 10, 2024
I would say a lot of Spielberg’s work. It just doesn’t seem to age. I watched Munich a few weeks ago, and to me it could have come out yesterday. Same for Saving Private Ryan or Schindler’s List.
Show threadhactar42Apr 10, 2024

IMO, the early 90s was a golden age for movie effects. There was CGI but it was so primitive and expensive it was used sparingly. Like you mentioned that blend of practical and special effects was amazing.

Another great example of this is Terminator 2. They obviously used CGI for the T-1000 but then they actually flew a helicopter under a highway overpass, drove a semi-truck off a bridge into the LA river, and blew up an office building.

Show threadeightpixApr 9, 2024
I saw Being There about 10 years ago, and it was made 30 years before that. It is a masterwork.
Show threadeverettApr 9, 2024
Absolutely. I saw it for the first time maybe a year ago and went in not knowing anything about it, not even the synopsis, and that was the perfect way to experience it. What a ride.
Show threadGrumpydaddyApr 9, 2024
2001: A Space Odyssey still holds up pretty well both technically and narratively.
Show threadxkforceApr 10, 2024
That movie pissed my ex off. 23 minutes before there was any dialogue. Should have known then and there the relationship was doomed.
Show threadRhynoplazApr 10, 2024

That sounds pretty similar to our experience. I’ve always heard great things, but never saw it.

20 minutes in I apologized for suggesting it and we watched some paint dry instead.

Show threadGrayBackgroundMusicApr 10, 2024
Same. Any time I’ve discussed this movie, I always critique it that chapter 1 should have been shorter, 2 and 3 should have been longer and 4 should have been skipped entirely.
Show threadRhynoplazApr 10, 2024
There really wasn’t anything to do in the 70’s, so people were more used to sitting around and waiting for something to happen.
Show threadGrayBackgroundMusicApr 10, 2024
And getting high. Which, tbh, chapter 4 seems like an LCD hallucination or something, which fits.
Show threadseeking_perhapsApr 10, 2024
it’s definitely not a movie best enjoyed sober
Show threaddemesisxApr 10, 2024
Little known fact: the visual effects look so good because they shot the mattes and all elements ON THE SAME PIECE OF FILM. They’d shoot the matte, put the film in storage, build the set, then shoot the scene on top of that.